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Old 09-06-2009, 08:35 PM   #1
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Default Original colours for 170 pursuit motor?

hi i was just wondering if anyone out there knows what the original colours were for the engine, tappet cover and air cleaner on the xl falcon 1962.

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170 aircleaner and rocker cover is red
engine is a silvery green, very hard to find
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:46 PM   #3
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hi need to say what size engine - although XL only had 2 - 170 and 144.

not definitive answer but here is colour (60's technicolour) for the XP engines rockers and aircleaners (144,170 and 200)

http://xpfalcon.kicks-***.net/XPFalc.../1-Engines.htm

although the 170 is more red than this photo

and the xp's had silver blocks whilst the early falcons xk/xl ( and XM ?) had the silvery green ones mentioned by redxm.

if you call earlybirds at thomas town ,vic i am sure he can tell you a rocker /aircleaner/block colour match.

i saw an XM engine they had recoed and it had been painted the silvery green block

pretty sure the 170 stayed red for rockers and aircleaner


and just to add to the confusion :my XK 144 has blue rocker cover and aircleaner:(hard to see -but you get the gist)



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Old 21-08-2009, 08:46 PM   #4
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Original colour of the rocker cover on the 170 in my XL



A small patch of the green that covered the block.
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Old 22-08-2009, 05:32 PM   #5
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Hi,pretty sure the first 170's were blue rocker and aircleaner,the 144's were definately yellow.I worked for a ford dealer at the time they came out.
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So knarf171 is this right.
XK and XL falcons are.
144 CID is a light yellow, cover & air filter.
170 CID is a light blue, cover & filter.
these have solid lifters ?

And the XM and XP falcons are.
200 CID is gold, cover & filter.
170 CID is dark red, cover & filter.
144 CID I DO NOT KNOW.
these have HYD lifters.
and all of these motors have 4 main bearings.

The 200 CID motor in the XR falcon has the same gold cover and air filter. but it has a 7 main bearing block. same as the 170. and is dark red covers to ?
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Where did you find that colour Jack
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Sorry forgot to check the thread, the guy that painted the car found it, I'll try to remember to ask him
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:40 AM   #10
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Default Re: Original colours for 170 pursuit motor?

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but does anyone know of the paint colour code for the Silvery Green colour used on the XK/XL engine blocks please?

Also would like to know if there's a code for the cream/yellow colour on the 170ci rocker cover and air filter housing.

Does anyone reproduce these paints at all??
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Sorry forgot to check the thread, the guy that painted the car found it, I'll try to remember to ask him
Hey guys, sorry to revive this old thread, but did you ever get around to asking him what colour green this is?
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:24 PM   #12
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Default Re: Original colours for 170 pursuit motor?

Good evening,
XK/XL engine paint colour.
Is it VHT 131 Ford Green Engine enamel, Ford Green Duplicator DE1617 (with ceramic), VHT Ford Green SP154, Ford Crystal Green Metallic G235L, Ford Green Metallic 4231L Dulon, FALCON XM Green Velvet metallic, Amazon green Duplicolour BFM 0350, Ford Turquoise Duco 4230L, or is Chrysler Turquoise Duplicolour DE1619 the one?

XL Air Cleaner.
Creamy yellow colour.What paint match?
Any ideas formula or close spray can match?

If I am using spray can,might as well be as close to orig.,and if paint formula available will use that. Accurate info. would be very much appreciated please.
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I don't suppose anyone has found the green engine block paint colour for the XL 170ci?
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Default Re: Original colours for 170 pursuit motor?

I've been trawling the web high and low... could this be it:

Duplicolor Engine Enamel 'Detroit Green' DE1618.

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Or Ford Green DE 1617?
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Default Re: Original colours for 170 pursuit motor?

Actually, my ongoing quest to find the right colour has led me to a colour called SAGE GREEN METALLIC.

Its from the AE Paints colour range.
It's codes are:

Product# 2605
HTML# 39544D
CMYK# 76, 49, 62, 36
RGB# 57, 84, 77

I'm going to get some made up to test out.
I have an original block to compare with, so will let you know how it goes.
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Default Re: Original colours for 170 pursuit motor?

I am having trouble finding a paint supplier who can supply that paint, my mate (a mechanic) is rebuilding the engine has tried several local suppliers and one in Melbourne, all with no luck. I have asked him to paint the block and head when he has the engine out

Any other suggestions
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