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Old 07-07-2016, 11:04 PM   #31
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Really? From over here in Victoria Casino Mike seems pretty damn corrupt, and has done a fantastic job of destroying the last tiny bits of culture Sydney still had.

Props for banning greyhound racing though...
Baird also has a poor reputation for selling off a lot of public assets to developers. A lot of houses could fit in some of those soon to be disused greyhound tracks.
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Was happy to see the ban. Unfortunetley seeing as its still leagal in other states this 'sport' will continue.
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A great day. Baird govt has more cojones than it appeared
Great day indeed, I hope Baird considered this ban wisely & thought of compenstion & jobs for those thrown out of the industry.
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Really? From over here in Victoria Casino Mike seems pretty damn corrupt, and has done a fantastic job of destroying the last tiny bits of culture Sydney still had.

Props for banning greyhound racing though...
Victoria...? Sorry, not really familiar with regional NSW
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i don,t agree with it. its all to nanny state or big brother, yes we know that there are problems in the industry but this is an over reaction imo. so wheres the effort to combat the industry problem? where the warning and probation period? = there wasn,t one. just bang , cold turkey.its all over red rover!

i smell a rat, and before the industry can reform , all those racing sites will be sold to mates or developers, with no possibility of a come back, its gone, not coming back ever.

people don,t relise the jobs and spin off industries that it supports, of coarse all the figures will be down played.
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now a interesting question ?

what will happen to all the racing dogs many are only used for racing so if there is no racing then there will be a sad end for many of the dogs

there is also a serious problem in the fact that income from pet food supplier and kennel workers are just a few that will be effected.
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what will happen to all the racing dogs many are only used for racing so if there is no racing then there will be a sad end for many of the dogs
They will be put down. Hopefully the breeders/trainers do it humanely. I remember having to put down our pet dog when she got cancer. Heartbreaking but at least we took her to a trained VET so she didn't suffer.
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Yes; I also understand that at most tracks they actually have a vet at race meeting available to immediately put down the owners that don't perform.
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Tongue in cheek, but the RSPCA put down tens of thousands of animal a year.
Do we ban the RSPCA???
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Tongue in cheek, but the RSPCA put down tens of thousands of animal a year.
Do we ban the RSPCA???
Why stop there?

Everyone in NSW should be forced to become Vegan as of July 1 2017.

Ban meat!
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Why stop there?

Everyone in NSW should be forced to become Vegan as of July 1 2017.

Ban meat!
Well, off topic, but Animal agriculture produces more emissions than all fossil fuels combined. That includes energy production, cars, industry, everything. And by considerable margin!

And the animal cruelty that these animals are exposed to is nothing shy of horrific.

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Tongue in cheek, but the RSPCA put down tens of thousands of animal a year.
Do we ban the RSPCA???
I stopped supporting the RSPCA as soon as they gave their certification to killing chickens...
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Well, off topic, but Animal agriculture produces more emissions than all fossil fuels combined. That includes energy production, cars, industry, everything. And by considerable margin!

And the animal cruelty that these animals are exposed to is nothing shy of horrific.

But one win at a time...
Yeah I hear ya. I was joking obviously and I would rather die than go vegan, but if everyone just ate a bit less meat it would be a good thing for the environment and their own health.

Anyway, unless people are planning on eating these greyhounds we're pretty off topic...
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Wrong on both counts:

1. I have a rescue greyhound and they make great family pets. Most are couch potatoes and the mercenary breeding practices of the racing fraternity also means they have less health issues than other breeds (any dog with health issues is unfortunately destroyed and not allowed to breed).

2. If you check your facts you will find that they are the dog least likely to bite people (see the science e.g. http://www.appliedanimalbehaviour.co...114-7/abstract ); they wear muzzles so the don't injure each other when the get entangled with each other while racing but this has led to the perception they are biters and the requirement to wear muzzles in public in some states. Yes they can be trained to chase small animals (and some unfortunately have been) but they can also be easily trained not to do so (like any dog).


ALL Dogs are a product of their breeding, and to a much lesser extent their training. Most breeds have years (often 100s) of breeding to produce specific results.
Obviously Greyhounds are ideally bred to run fast, but they are also sight-hounds and a large part of what makes them run their fastest is the prey-drive.
The law requires them to be muzzled in public because if they see a small animal, even smaller dogs, they will be driven to attack.
Even the organisations promoting them as pets warn of this.

They are obviously good with humans and other large dogs, and providing you keep them under control they would make fine pets (provided you have no other smaller animals.)

The problem remains that the vast majority of greyhounds bred, finish up being killed. That this deplorable industry has been allowed to continue for so long is disgusting.
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Tongue in cheek, but the RSPCA put down tens of thousands of animal a year.
Do we ban the RSPCA???
Of course not.

The RSPCA doesn't breed animals and then put them down when they don't meet a purpose, in most cases it is a last resort after trying to place them in homes.
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i don,t agree with it. its all to nanny state or big brother, yes we know that there are problems in the industry but this is an over reaction imo. so wheres the effort to combat the industry problem? where the warning and probation period? = there wasn,t one. just bang , cold turkey.its all over red rover!

i smell a rat, and before the industry can reform , all those racing sites will be sold to mates or developers, with no possibility of a come back, its gone, not coming back ever.

people don,t relise the jobs and spin off industries that it supports, of coarse all the figures will be down played.
^^this is so true - look at harold park. Even his own commisioned inquiry did NOT recommend a ban.
This is the same person saying we shouldn't judge all muslims by the actions of a minority - but does the same thing to all greyhound trainers? Will lure coursing be the next thing banned - in case letting dogs run after plastic bags makes them chase other things? Or herding, because some people think its cruel for dogs to be upsetting sheep? Or agility, because dogs going over jumps or seesaws is just using them to entertain people?


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1. I have a rescue greyhound and they make great family pets. Most are couch potatoes and the mercenary breeding practices of the racing fraternity also means they have less health issues than other breeds (any dog with health issues is unfortunately destroyed and not allowed to breed).
thats not isolated to greyhounds - that happens to almost all purebred stock across multiple species. It isnt always a bad thing to weed out detrimental genetics, when the alternative is having animals with extremely poor quality of life.


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2. If you check your facts you will find that they are the dog least likely to bite people (see the science e.g. http://www.appliedanimalbehaviour.com/article/S0168-1591(08)00114-7/abstract )
..but it doesnt mean they dont. Greyhound/people aggression is actually well noted on greyhound sites, (with information more up to date than an 8 year old article).There is a lady with a grey who brings it to the local dog park - it is aggressive to other dogs, and other grey owners avoid her & her dog, and apparently has been known to nip at people as it runs past (she doesnt muzzle it).


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; they wear muzzles so the don't injure each other when the get entangled with each other while racing but this has led to the perception they are biters and the requirement to wear muzzles in public in some states. Yes they can be trained to chase small animals (and some unfortunately have been) but they can also be easily trained not to do so (like any dog).
this is what they have been bred to do for literally thousands of years- they are a hunting dog - and people forget that their instinct to chase is very very strong. They dont need training to chase, just as herding dogs have an instinct to herd. Afghans are no better, & IMHO should be muzzled in public too.

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I don't support greyhound racing but I do think greyhounds make great pets.
they do, but they are not for everyone.

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I don't know about other states but in NSW they don't require a muzzle anymore
incorrect. For a grey to be without a muzzle in public, they need to pass a very specific temperament test, and be issued with the special green collar, otherwise you are breaking the law & can be fined. http://www.greenhounds.com.au/what-is-a-greenhound.html


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I hope so... I dont think animals should be used for gambling and entertainment. If there is so much outrage over sea world, circus', how is horse racing any different?
do you have a pet of any description? There are a LOT of brain dead morons out there who think pet ownership is the same thing as a circus, or seaworld, and want to stop pet ownership because "its cruel & uses animals for the entertainment of people". Will you give up your pets quietly when someone decides they dont like you having one?

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If you need to make a living from these animals, go to Tafe/Uni and get a qualification. Bit like what people have had to do with the motor industry coming to a close.
They already do in nsw, & have done for a while.



I cannot believe such arrogance in tarring all dog trainers as unethical morons. I hope the trainers sue his butt off, and the ban is thrown out by the courts. Sure, do what the commission report found & bring in more supervisory levels, more enforciment of rules & tighten up the sport to the Nth degree, but a ban is dumb. So many local businesses (not just the trainers) will be hit. I dont like lots of things that some on here like (like smoking cigars, or RC cars) but i'm not out there going trying to ban stuff just cause I dont like it. Last I looked, this wasn't North Korea
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do you have a pet of any description? There are a LOT of brain dead morons out there who think pet ownership is the same thing as a circus, or seaworld, and want to stop pet ownership because "its cruel & uses animals for the entertainment of people". Will you give up your pets quietly when someone decides they dont like you having one?


Acctually, you'll find that they are against pet production centres, where the mother is used to produce litter after litter, harming the animals. All my pets a strays that I found and kept to make sure they dont hurt possums and other native animals.
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Yeah I hear ya. I was joking obviously and I would rather die than go vegan, but if everyone just ate a bit less meat it would be a good thing for the environment and their own health.

Anyway, unless people are planning on eating these greyhounds we're pretty off topic...
I used to be like that... I'm slowly making the change. The way animals are treated is something I cant stomach...
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I like Baird & what he's doing for NSW. I reckon he should try the federal arena.
Baird is the worse thing that has happened to NSW
He is a dictator that refuses to listen to the public and is only interested in Sydney.

He has disrupted the State with forced Council amalgamations and has closed the rail to Newcastle and ripped up the lines so they cannot be relaid down. When challenged on the legality of his moves he had the law changed. when the Save Our rail continued to protest he changed another law and lumbered the group with untold court fees and now the so called public land is being subjected to developers. He is forcing the light rail in Newcastle to travel down the main street instead of using the existing corridor, and he sold of the Port of Newcastle and sent the majority of the money to Sydney.

The Hunter and surrounding regions will never recover from the vandalism he has carried out in this area.
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now a interesting question ?

what will happen to all the racing dogs many are only used for racing so if there is no racing then there will be a sad end for many of the dogs
Many of those dogs would be better off dead anyhow considering the lives they currently live.
Many of them will also only have a short life anyhow.

As someone else said, at least this will eventually stop the idiotic cycle.
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Processed pet food is junk anyhow, but that's a whole 'nuther story...
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why cant they teach the dogs to chase car tyres? some dogs love to do that. just get a beaten up old hq sedan thats running on five cylinders and a bit smokie , off he goes and then being chased by a bunch of dogs, it just fits imo.
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why cant they teach the dogs to chase car tyres? some dogs love to do that. just get a beaten up old hq sedan thats running on five cylinders and a bit smokie , off he goes and then being chased by a bunch of dogs, it just fits imo.
Might get a bit exhausting
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Tongue in cheek, but the RSPCA put down tens of thousands of animal a year.
Do we ban the RSPCA???
The RSPCA puts down thousands of dogs because no one wants them, people keep breeding dogs and then dump them, there are more dogs and cats and horses than people that want them, yet people keep breeding them for greed and profit or just sheer laziness and in responsibility.

So the RSPC picks up the slack and does the dirty deed for everyone else, why would you ban them for that??

I know you said tongue in cheek, but really it's not a joking matter, people need to be made responsible for their actions.
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ALL Dogs are a product of their breeding, and to a much lesser extent their training. Most breeds have years (often 100s) of breeding to produce specific results.
Obviously Greyhounds are ideally bred to run fast, but they are also sight-hounds and a large part of what makes them run their fastest is the prey-drive.
The law requires them to be muzzled in public because if they see a small animal, even smaller dogs, they will be driven to attack.
Even the organisations promoting them as pets warn of this.

They are obviously good with humans and other large dogs, and providing you keep them under control they would make fine pets (provided you have no other smaller animals.)

The problem remains that the vast majority of greyhounds bred, finish up being killed. That this deplorable industry has been allowed to continue for so long is disgusting.
100%, I would not trust a Greyhound with any small animal or child, teh same I would not trust my two dogs.

They have an extremely strong prey drive (as do mine) and they will happily kill small creatures and even larger creatures given the opportunity.

Does not mean they don't make good pets, but it takes a responsible and diligent owner to look after dogs with a strong prey drive.
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now a interesting question ?

what will happen to all the racing dogs many are only used for racing so if there is no racing then there will be a sad end for many of the dogs

there is also a serious problem in the fact that income from pet food supplier and kennel workers are just a few that will be effected.
Unfortunately most will be put down, but they would have met the same fate either way. Dogs kept being bread and if too slow put down, thousands of them every year.

So this will hopefully break the cycle of breeding more and more dogs for profit just so they can be killed if they don't meet expectation.
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Acctually, you'll find that they are against pet production centres, where the mother is used to produce litter after litter, harming the animals. All my pets a strays that I found and kept to make sure they dont hurt possums and other native animals.
No, they are against ALL people/animal interaction & class pet ownership as "forced slavery". The stated aim of peta & by extension, Animals Australia (who follow peta's agenda) is for all domestic animals to become extinct. There's a reason peta shelters have a less than 3% adoption rate.

Make no mistake, I'm all for animal welfare. I fully agree that the overbreeding of racing greys needs to be stopped. But I will bet london to a brick that a lot of the critics of the greyhound overbreeding are the ones who will pay any tom richard or harry stupid amounts of money for the latest must-have designer cross breed, backyard bred mutt with an "oodle" somewhere in its name
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:09 PM   #59
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i don,t agree with it. its all to nanny state or big brother, yes we know that there are problems in the industry but this is an over reaction imo. so wheres the effort to combat the industry problem? where the warning and probation period? = there wasn,t one. just bang , cold turkey.its all over red rover!
This has been going on for a long time, and these people knew they were doing the wrong thing and repeatedly and knowingly did the wrong thing and they had plenty of warning, and realistically you don't need warning to not do the wrong thing, you should already have the ethics to do the right thing by your chosen sport and animals.

No one needs to tell you not to torture animals and to have small living creatures ripped apart by dogs whilst strung up upside down, and people that do it probably are way past a warning.
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What would happen if you banned cows milk production? Overnight hundreds of thousands of cows would have a bullet put between their eyes, they don't just go to some magical pasture to moo and be happy for the rest of their natural lives.

3 things will happen, some of the dogs will be sent interstate to continue racing, some will be sent overseas to race but face worse treatment than here, the rest will have a bullet put in their skull, but the owners wont be dumping the bodies in a national park to be found, this will all be on the down low.
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