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07-07-2016, 11:04 PM | #31 | ||
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Baird also has a poor reputation for selling off a lot of public assets to developers. A lot of houses could fit in some of those soon to be disused greyhound tracks.
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07-07-2016, 11:17 PM | #32 | ||
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Was happy to see the ban. Unfortunetley seeing as its still leagal in other states this 'sport' will continue.
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08-07-2016, 12:49 PM | #33 | ||
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08-07-2016, 12:59 PM | #34 | ||
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Victoria...? Sorry, not really familiar with regional NSW
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08-07-2016, 01:15 PM | #35 | ||
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i don,t agree with it. its all to nanny state or big brother, yes we know that there are problems in the industry but this is an over reaction imo. so wheres the effort to combat the industry problem? where the warning and probation period? = there wasn,t one. just bang , cold turkey.its all over red rover!
i smell a rat, and before the industry can reform , all those racing sites will be sold to mates or developers, with no possibility of a come back, its gone, not coming back ever. people don,t relise the jobs and spin off industries that it supports, of coarse all the figures will be down played. |
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08-07-2016, 02:50 PM | #36 | ||
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now a interesting question ?
what will happen to all the racing dogs many are only used for racing so if there is no racing then there will be a sad end for many of the dogs there is also a serious problem in the fact that income from pet food supplier and kennel workers are just a few that will be effected.
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08-07-2016, 02:58 PM | #37 | ||
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They will be put down. Hopefully the breeders/trainers do it humanely. I remember having to put down our pet dog when she got cancer. Heartbreaking but at least we took her to a trained VET so she didn't suffer.
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08-07-2016, 03:07 PM | #38 | ||
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08-07-2016, 03:32 PM | #39 | ||
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Tongue in cheek, but the RSPCA put down tens of thousands of animal a year.
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08-07-2016, 03:43 PM | #40 | ||
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And the animal cruelty that these animals are exposed to is nothing shy of horrific. But one win at a time...
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08-07-2016, 03:55 PM | #42 | ||
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I stopped supporting the RSPCA as soon as they gave their certification to killing chickens...
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08-07-2016, 03:58 PM | #43 | |||
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ALL Dogs are a product of their breeding, and to a much lesser extent their training. Most breeds have years (often 100s) of breeding to produce specific results. Obviously Greyhounds are ideally bred to run fast, but they are also sight-hounds and a large part of what makes them run their fastest is the prey-drive. The law requires them to be muzzled in public because if they see a small animal, even smaller dogs, they will be driven to attack. Even the organisations promoting them as pets warn of this. They are obviously good with humans and other large dogs, and providing you keep them under control they would make fine pets (provided you have no other smaller animals.) The problem remains that the vast majority of greyhounds bred, finish up being killed. That this deplorable industry has been allowed to continue for so long is disgusting. |
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08-07-2016, 04:02 PM | #45 | |||
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The RSPCA doesn't breed animals and then put them down when they don't meet a purpose, in most cases it is a last resort after trying to place them in homes. |
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This is the same person saying we shouldn't judge all muslims by the actions of a minority - but does the same thing to all greyhound trainers? Will lure coursing be the next thing banned - in case letting dogs run after plastic bags makes them chase other things? Or herding, because some people think its cruel for dogs to be upsetting sheep? Or agility, because dogs going over jumps or seesaws is just using them to entertain people? Quote:
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I cannot believe such arrogance in tarring all dog trainers as unethical morons. I hope the trainers sue his butt off, and the ban is thrown out by the courts. Sure, do what the commission report found & bring in more supervisory levels, more enforciment of rules & tighten up the sport to the Nth degree, but a ban is dumb. So many local businesses (not just the trainers) will be hit. I dont like lots of things that some on here like (like smoking cigars, or RC cars) but i'm not out there going trying to ban stuff just cause I dont like it. Last I looked, this wasn't North Korea
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He is a dictator that refuses to listen to the public and is only interested in Sydney. He has disrupted the State with forced Council amalgamations and has closed the rail to Newcastle and ripped up the lines so they cannot be relaid down. When challenged on the legality of his moves he had the law changed. when the Save Our rail continued to protest he changed another law and lumbered the group with untold court fees and now the so called public land is being subjected to developers. He is forcing the light rail in Newcastle to travel down the main street instead of using the existing corridor, and he sold of the Port of Newcastle and sent the majority of the money to Sydney. The Hunter and surrounding regions will never recover from the vandalism he has carried out in this area.
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Many of them will also only have a short life anyhow. As someone else said, at least this will eventually stop the idiotic cycle. Quote:
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08-07-2016, 05:39 PM | #52 | ||
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Hopefully we'll see a few Santa's Lil Helpers come out of this
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08-07-2016, 06:08 PM | #53 | ||
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why cant they teach the dogs to chase car tyres? some dogs love to do that. just get a beaten up old hq sedan thats running on five cylinders and a bit smokie , off he goes and then being chased by a bunch of dogs, it just fits imo.
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08-07-2016, 06:39 PM | #54 | ||
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Might get a bit exhausting
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08-07-2016, 06:56 PM | #55 | |||
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So the RSPC picks up the slack and does the dirty deed for everyone else, why would you ban them for that?? I know you said tongue in cheek, but really it's not a joking matter, people need to be made responsible for their actions.
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They have an extremely strong prey drive (as do mine) and they will happily kill small creatures and even larger creatures given the opportunity. Does not mean they don't make good pets, but it takes a responsible and diligent owner to look after dogs with a strong prey drive.
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So this will hopefully break the cycle of breeding more and more dogs for profit just so they can be killed if they don't meet expectation.
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08-07-2016, 07:04 PM | #58 | |||
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Make no mistake, I'm all for animal welfare. I fully agree that the overbreeding of racing greys needs to be stopped. But I will bet london to a brick that a lot of the critics of the greyhound overbreeding are the ones who will pay any tom richard or harry stupid amounts of money for the latest must-have designer cross breed, backyard bred mutt with an "oodle" somewhere in its name
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No one needs to tell you not to torture animals and to have small living creatures ripped apart by dogs whilst strung up upside down, and people that do it probably are way past a warning.
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08-07-2016, 07:17 PM | #60 | ||
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What would happen if you banned cows milk production? Overnight hundreds of thousands of cows would have a bullet put between their eyes, they don't just go to some magical pasture to moo and be happy for the rest of their natural lives.
3 things will happen, some of the dogs will be sent interstate to continue racing, some will be sent overseas to race but face worse treatment than here, the rest will have a bullet put in their skull, but the owners wont be dumping the bodies in a national park to be found, this will all be on the down low.
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