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Old 26-10-2006, 07:59 PM   #1
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Default Aurion TRD concept released

front looks good, but i'd rather an XR6T for the money.

http://drive.com.au/Editorial/MiniSi...8&MiniSiteID=1

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Old 26-10-2006, 08:01 PM   #2
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240kW and FWD? Hmmm... thats gonna torque steer like a dog. Should have made it AWD IMHO.
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Old 26-10-2006, 08:08 PM   #3
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Yeah. It looks more like it was designed from an Audi too...
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Old 26-10-2006, 08:11 PM   #4
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240Kw not bad but FWD why... AWD and this car could have been half alright.
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Old 26-10-2006, 08:23 PM   #5
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It looks very good, why the 'audi-VW grill'

if the levels of are equipment are good hopefully like the Toyota quallity, this will most likely make a noticeable dent in the sales ford and GM sport models. FWD isn't a sales killer as it was a few years ago, most people dont care (or know the difference).
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Old 26-10-2006, 08:34 PM   #6
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It had my attention until I read ''It retains front-wheel drive''
That said Toyota make a good quality car and suspect the 1500 will be sold every year without too much trouble.
Be a good upgrade for a ricer owner.
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Old 26-10-2006, 08:35 PM   #7
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I like the look although 240kw is somewhat lacking in this era of 260kw and beyond... I'd prefer a VE SS or XR6T
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Old 26-10-2006, 09:57 PM   #8
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I like the look although 240kw is somewhat lacking in this era of 260kw and beyond
It's not all about power that makes a car fast. I'd say that the power to weight ratio would be similar to a Falcon or Commodore. I stand to be corrected though.

My car only has 168kw and it's still goes heaps hard for a stock vehicle.

FWD? If this was RWD I reckon it would make a few consider it as an alternative to other cars. I believed I bagged it before but that pic does present it as nice car.
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Old 26-10-2006, 08:38 PM   #9
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Old 26-10-2006, 08:38 PM   #10
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Torque steer ROCKS.
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Old 26-10-2006, 09:10 PM   #11
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Is it me, or does that look ALOT like the VE commodore....
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Old 26-10-2006, 09:51 PM   #12
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Seems like the 380 may be following the Aurion...

Mitsubishi's red-hot 380
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Old 27-10-2006, 09:46 AM   #13
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Is it me, or does that look ALOT like the VE commodore....
You are not alone chaser...my first impression of the front was that it was a VE.

It will go...and no doubt the Toyota engineers have tricks up their sleeves to minimise the downside of FWD. Plus the advertising money Toyota have (surely they could wipe out third-world debt!) will mean it gets airtime a plenty.
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Is it me, or does that look ALOT like the VE commodore....
i was about to say it looks like the hsv e series...especially the rear spoiler
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Old 27-10-2006, 07:37 AM   #15
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Torque steer ROCKS.

prolly flog your little 5litre:P
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Old 26-10-2006, 09:54 PM   #16
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Front looks good, back looks like riced-up camry

Would no doubt be a high quality car, but most sportscar enthusiasts would be put off by FWD
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Old 27-10-2006, 07:43 AM   #17
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Front looks good, back looks like riced-up camry

Would no doubt be a high quality car, but most sportscar enthusiasts would be put off by FWD
The sheila's dont look half bad either :dr_Evil:
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Old 27-10-2006, 07:45 AM   #18
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Be interesting to see if all Toyota's technology and engineering expertise can make this thing quicker than the Aussie's around a good circuit like phillip island
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The sheila's dont look half bad either :dr_Evil:
I looked at them before I looked at the car :nutsycuck
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Old 27-10-2006, 02:39 AM   #20
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It'll torque steer like a *****. Which is great if you want to go left.
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Old 27-10-2006, 02:41 AM   #21
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Depends how its setup. Youd be surprised how little modern FWD suffer from torque steer.

Not all cars torque steer to the left.
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Depends how its setup. Youd be surprised how little modern FWD suffer from torque steer.

Not all cars torque steer to the left.
True - just look at the mazda 3 mps. 190kw and FWD but all the mag journos are raving about how there is barely any torque steer due to the technolgy/engineering available
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Old 27-10-2006, 09:27 AM   #23
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True - just look at the mazda 3 mps. 190kw and FWD but all the mag journos are raving about how there is barely any torque steer due to the technolgy/engineering available

theres a bit of difference between 190kw & 240kw, and add to that a larger heavier body for the camry compared to the 3, it is going to have torque steer.
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Old 27-10-2006, 05:21 AM   #24
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can u say fpv lower section
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Old 27-10-2006, 07:24 AM   #25
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"TRD" - Just leaps out at you with an extra "U"! What board passed that acronym!!!!! :

Actually looks pretty good I reckon but they really need to give up on the FWD thing if they are truly looking to get serious about performance. All fine in a small hatchback but not in a big saloon. :
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Old 27-10-2006, 08:22 AM   #26
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Looks hot - you can really tell the guy who designed the BA XR's designed it from the striking similarities. Nick Hogias wasn't it?

240kw and FWD I can't see mixing very well though. I'm all for front wheel drive hot hatches but 240kw is way out there (IMO about 150kw is the max for a decent FWD steerer, the Mazda 3 MPS relies too much on restriting power).

However I would wait to see the straight line performance tests and lap times from independent mags first before outright bagging it.
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Old 27-10-2006, 09:13 AM   #27
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It's all about the power to weight ratio and weight distribution. Do you think Toyota would invest the money on the FWD car to rival the likes of the XR6 turbo if they didn't think it would work?

Especially seeing the Kluger has the same under pinnings as the Camry and the Aurion (so I'm told) which is constant AWD...
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Old 27-10-2006, 09:41 AM   #28
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The front of the car looks ok, but as always, the back looks terrible, conservative and traditionally Toyata Camry-ish.

FWD doesn't interest me a bit.

It really doesn't.

Toyota need to create a car that is holistically up-to-date. The rears of their cars always seem to be squarish. Square-backed cars have been kinda poo-pooey since the AU and VT.
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saw the aurion at the syd motor show last night looks are ok (still just a tarted up camry) but $35k for a 200kw v6. me thinks it will be a good seller, maybe even scare the ve vectradoore this time around. nice job for a cardigan car toyota, still, id prefer my xr8:
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toyota need to build a specific sports car, ie supra.
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