Front wheel drive Commodore

jabba · 23-10-2005, 04:40 PM

I heard a rumor that in the next 3 years the Commodore will be a FWD and the upmarket Commo's will be All wheel drive. Can anyone confirm the rumor.

vztrt · 23-10-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

I heard a rumor that in the next 3 years the Commodore will be a FWD and the upmarket Commo's will be All wheel drive. Can anyone confirm the rumor.

If that happns, they'll not only lose sales but they wouldn't be able to export to the US (there used as cop cars). Not a smart move if it's true.

LTDHO · 23-10-2005, 04:54 PM

Old rumor!

Ford were going to do it prior to AU also!!

I doubt it as Australians love their RWD's!!

Teki04 · 23-10-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

wouldn't be able to export to the US (there used as cop cars)

Can you prove this? I dont think the commodore is exported to the US... reason being the Fuel tank..... The Middle East... yes

vztrt · 23-10-2005, 05:01 PM

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Can you prove this? I dont think the commodore is exported to the US... reason being the Fuel tank..... The Middle East... yes

I remember reading about it when there was a "how great is the commodore" article.
The Magna was exported as well.

twr7cx · 23-10-2005, 04:53 PM

wouldn't that be more expensive for Holden to produce then as they'd have to build and develope two different platforms? one RWD and one FWD. maybe they've got a new Dawoo to use as the Commodore!

RED_EL_XR8 · 23-10-2005, 04:55 PM

I once heard a rumour that Tasmania was built of ivory, this rumour also proved to be unfounded.

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big_waity · 25-10-2005, 07:55 AM

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I once heard a rumour that Tasmania was built of ivory, this rumour also proved to be unfounded.

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You mean this isn't true????? WOW MAN! That changes my whole outlook!

max^power · 23-10-2005, 05:28 PM

is it just me, or has there been alot of HOLDEN talk in these forums latley?

23-10-2005, 05:33 PM

Holden have lost there export licence to the US because of the monaro deal, they had to sell 18000 of them over to gain an export licence there but the americans hated them and only 3700 were sold thus denying Holden to export to the US.
As for the front wheel drive I have heard numerous rumors like the daewoo running gear being modified to fit under the commodore to make them front wheel drive but I dunno if it will happen and I can almost garuntee that ford will not go there.

vztrt · 23-10-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FTRAU1

Holden have lost there export licence to the US because of the monaro deal, they had to sell 18000 of them over to gain an export licence there but the americans hated them and only 3700 were sold thus denying Holden to export to the US.
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This article was back in the early VY days. They were also praising the Monaro as well.

4Vman · 23-10-2005, 05:43 PM

ive heard a rumour that Holden means a great deal to Korea...

Dave_au · 24-10-2005, 09:27 AM

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ive heard a rumour that Holden means a great deal to Korea...

Water under the bridge mate. Time to let it go I think.

Spoke to the Holden guys at the motor show - they are keeping the upper market models of the Astra - the Viva is replacing the City and the base model Astra. And suprisingly, the build quality on the born again Daewoos wasn't as bad as what I thought it would have been.

GM did pour a heap of money into those Korean facilities, I don't know how much, and I don't know how the cars would go on the open road but I must say I was suprised.

Honda, Nissan and Toyota have built a heap of factories in Thailand now - all the new Hiluxes are from Thailand, the Accords are from Thailand - don't hear anyone complaining about them!

Falcon Freak · 23-10-2005, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

I heard a rumor that in the next 3 years the Commodore will be a FWD and the upmarket Commo's will be All wheel drive. Can anyone confirm the rumor.

Holden will cancel all all-wheel-drive models by middle of 2006. Therefore there will be no AWD offered on VE model. Heard it on LS1 forums.

FF

AuFairlaneV8 · 23-10-2005, 06:03 PM

let me see spend a few hundred million in development of the rwd VE then 3 years later **** it off and bring in a front wheel drive, dont think that will happen. Though I wonder if ford or holden australia become unprofitable and shut down, will they import an overseas car and call it falcon/commodore

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Lukeyson · 23-10-2005, 06:25 PM

plus that would mean the V8 supercar rules would change to favour holdens, so we would have a Front wheel drive V8 touring cars, me thinks not

Psycho Chicken · 23-10-2005, 08:40 PM

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plus that would mean the V8 supercar rules would change to favour holdens, so we would have a Front wheel drive V8 touring cars, me thinks not

Naw, leave em out of the championship, that way we might win Bathurst. Might.

SSBUB · 23-10-2005, 08:30 PM

it wont happen, too much to be lost if that was to occur...hell i would have to start driving fords....and there has been a lot of holden talk on this forum lately...aint it grand? :P

b2tf · 23-10-2005, 08:41 PM

Holden export (or used to anyway, dont know if they still do or not) Statesmans and Caprice Models to the UAE and Saudi Arabia where they are used as Cop Vehicles. Badged as Chevys and not a bad deal if youre a cop- V8, leather, climate control etc.

max^power · 23-10-2005, 09:34 PM

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it wont happen, too much to be lost if that was to occur...hell i would have to start driving fords....and there has been a lot of holden talk on this forum lately...aint it grand? :P

it kinda defeats the purpose of the name/aim of this whole site doesn't it?

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**ebxr8240** · 23-10-2005, 09:11 PM

My brother bough a GTO [Monaro] early this year, he lives in U.S..G.M did NOT advertise them !! Even though they ARE very popular over there...Most G.M cars are fwd thats why Fords Crown Victoria are used by police....Its politics....Btw he paid $27,000 U.S...

SpoolMan · 23-10-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

I heard a rumor that in the next 3 years the Commodore will be a FWD and the upmarket Commo's will be All wheel drive. Can anyone confirm the rumor.

Heard the same thing around 2 months back, the original source works for Ford i was told..... They say both these company's want to do this but neither has the balls to do it 1st.....
But once one does it ...the other will follow, they say Ford and Holden can save thousands off the the price of building front wheel drive cars...

RED_EL_XR8 · 23-10-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by XRFPV8

Heard the same thing around 2 months back, the original source works for Ford i was told..... They say both these company's want to do this but neither has the balls to do it 1st.....
But once one does it ...the other will follow, they say Ford and Holden can save thousands off the the price of building front wheel drive cars...

Would be the deathnell of local car manufacturing. Unique relative high powered RWD sedan are the mainstay of local manufacture, take that away and the whole market place would be predominantly Korean imports. Scary thought that.

vztrt · 23-10-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by XRFPV8

But once one does it ...the other will follow, they say Ford and Holden can save thousands off the the price of building front wheel drive cars...

If that happened than I believe alot of people would not buy the cars.
I know i'd personally move to jap performance vehicles.

SSBUB · 23-10-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

If that happened than I believe alot of people would not buy the cars.
I know i'd personally move to jap performance vehicles.

As scary a thought as that is, i think i would be joining you...then we would all be bloody ricers

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FPVWEPN · 24-10-2005, 03:58 AM

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then we would all be bloody ricers

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Too bad mate over 80% of commodores i see are already bloody rice!! IMO too much commo crap on these forums lately !!

SSBUB · 24-10-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FPVWEPN

Too bad mate over 80% of commodores i see are already bloody rice!! IMO too much commo crap on these forums lately !!

Me thinks over 80% is a probably a bit of a stretch of the truth, considering how many families etc have a commodore.

Ryan · 24-10-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FPVWEPN

Too bad mate over 80% of commodores i see are already bloody rice!! IMO too much commo crap on these forums lately !!

80% is pushing the boundries too far.

But yeah I see alot of bombed out and riced Commies mainly from the VN-VS I see the odd riced VL everynow and then.

Anyway on topic.

FWD Commodore? If that were to happen I would shun Holden for using such a sh*t concept and come over to Ford permanatly.

XplosiveR6 · 23-10-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by XRFPV8

Heard the same thing around 2 months back, the original source works for Ford i was told..... They say both these company's want to do this but neither has the balls to do it 1st.....
But once one does it ...the other will follow, they say Ford and Holden can save thousands off the the price of building front wheel drive cars...

thats funny, i would luve to see how ford would fit the I6 east-west and the boss east west too, yea right. They would have to invest in whole new engines and dump the V8s, and this is supposed to save them money how?

RED_EL_XR8 · 23-10-2005, 11:54 PM

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thats funny, id luv to see how ford would fit the I6 east-west and the boss east west too, yea right, they would have to invest in whole new engines and dump the V8s, and this is supposed to save them money how?

who said it had to be the existing engines? An Australian manufactured six or a locally assembled specialist V8, as opposed to a ready to go imported trans-axle engine assembly from the US Europe SA or Asia. You argue with a been counter how it would not be cost effective. They never take into account facts like a massive consumer backlash!

Its unlikely whilst ever Ford and GM Australia have some say, but wouldn't be the first dumb move either company has had thrust upon it from the US.