New rear shocks 2015 Mondeo

[Greenspeed3]

I love my diesel Mondeo wagon. But both rear shock absorbers need replacing. Ford want $1200 (each)!!!
Given the low volume here, there is no aftermarket supplier. Repco etc don't have them.
But aftermarket shocks are readily available in the UK for around UK 35 pounds or A$65 each.
So I'm planning to buy in UK and have shipped over for fitting. Has anyone else done this?

[aussiblue]

These don't fit ? https://parts.monroe.com.au/v/ford-a...hock-absorbers

[Greenspeed3]

Thanks, but Mondeo is not in the Australian catalogue. Annoying, huh?

[aussiblue]

Thanks, but Mondeo is not in the Australian catalogue. Annoying, huh?

But it says "ford-australia-mondeo-ma-mc-mb-2-0-tdci-2007-2015-diesel-hatchback" and it is the Australian Monro Catalogue.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

But it says "ford-australia-mondeo-ma-mc-mb-2-0-tdci-2007-2015-diesel-hatchback" and it is the Australian Monro Catalogue.

Like this ?

[AlanD]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

Like this ?


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Hmmm,

Not so much.

Those, I think, are front struts.

The OP is looking for rear shocks?

Perhaps this?
https://parts.monroe.com.au/v/p/pass...roductnr=e2071

Good luck

Cheers

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by AlanD

Hmmm,

Not so much.

Those, I think, are front struts.

The OP is looking for rear shocks?

Perhaps this?
https://parts.monroe.com.au/v/p/pass...roductnr=e2071

Good luck

Cheers

I was merely showing that they do have a listing for Aust Mondeo's as aussieblue pointed out, and in the left menu it says rear axle.

[AlanD]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

I was merely showing that they do have a listing for Aust Mondeo's as aussieblue pointed out, and in the left menu it says rear axle.

Thanks for the clarification, but it might have helped the OP if the page went further down to show the rear Damper rather than the front Damper Struts. But I'm not sure if the entry showed that detail. I just checked and it does, but the OP is correct the listings do not cover the MD model, so I'll go out on a limb and suspect that it is an MD the OP is talking about and a wagon as well.

But it might be that the car is an MC model as a 2015 year has a couple of possibilities since both MC and MD models were sold in 2015 in Australia. And the MD was a complete redesign so there are a host of differences that could extend to suspension design and mounting details for Dampers.

If it is an MD wagon then the fact that the Titanium spec cars have self levelling rear suspension and the lower spec cars do not (I think), this might make for differences in both Damper type and how they are mounted.

I'd advise the OP to get under the car (or take a wheel off) and then you can check both the type of Damper (cylinder or strut, I doubt strut) and the mount system (eyelet or threaded rod) - it is then easy to eliminate catalogue entries that do not match.

I just looked under the back of our car, which has the self leveling suspension, so I can tell you that on the MD Titanium wagon there is an eyelet at the bottom of the Damper and a threaded rod at the top, but there is at least one tab welded to the lower tubular part that is used to locate other suspension members. The E2071 is not going to be suitable on this car.

If the OP goes here:

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/...07762-2-0-tdci

The entry might be helpful - the catalogue is quite extensive.

Finally - $1200 for a tubular Damper? - another example of dealership ripping off car owners?

Cheers

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

But it says "ford-australia-mondeo-ma-mc-mb-2-0-tdci-2007-2015-diesel-hatchback" and it is the Australian Monro Catalogue.

2015 Mondeo could be an MD, though, which arrived here around August that year.

[aussiblue]

https://parts.monroe.com.au/v/p/pass...roductnr=e2071

Rear Shock Absorber Part Number E2071 2007-2015 Ford Mondeo TDCi

these: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Monroe-C...frcectupt=true

[Mondaveo]

Originally Posted by Greenspeed3

So I'm planning to buy in UK and have shipped over for fitting. Has anyone else done this?

Cobrin did, for his 2009 MB hatch, and was kind enough to document the installation process which went smoothly:
https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11453047

FrancisW also did for his 2011 MC wagon, but ended up with products that didn't fit:
https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11478504

As they say, your mileage may vary.

[david837465]

Hi Greenspeed. I have exactly the same issue with my 2016 MD Mondeo. My mechanic couldn't believe the price Ford are asking for the parts. He asked for trade price and he was quoted exactly the same as me $2400 for the pair. In his opinion, they're not worth it. Mine failed after only 55k kms. I'm looking at the UK too. Did you end up doing this? Which ones did you order? How did it turn out? Any help/advice would be very much appreciated. Cheers

[Greenspeed3]

Hi.
No, I haven't done it yet. Apparently they are special self levelling shocks. Which is why the aftermarket parts don't suit.
My mechanic says there is a modification which can be done to allow standard shocks to be used. But that needs special springs to be made. And its not worthwhile.
So, I haven't gone any further with it..

[david837465]

Thanks for the reply. Im still hopeful the uk parts of the will work out. I've found posts on other sites where its been done on the MC mondeo. So fingers crossed 🤞

[GTLEGEND]

If it does not work and you need genuine shocks (need VIN to verify), but I can get these for $900 each ($600 saving in total). Still expensive I know, but if you have no choice, happy to help getting them.

[mourati]

Hi - not sure if this was covered in an earlier thread, but a failure at 55,000km is deemed an unacceptable product performance and reliability - you will be surprised that you, the Consumer has right under consumer guarantees and warranty to have Ford replace these at no charge to you!
Be prepared through to do the leg work as the Ford Service Manager is trained well to resist all cost wherever possible that is warranty is dealer have a hard time recovering this via Ford and anything they can charge out is easy money, but you will find with some patience and constant calls to their Customer hotline you will have these replaced at no cost to you!
Ford are still doing repairs to cars for warranty works free of charge for cars up to 7 years, and no one will ever publish this officially!
Make sure all service records are in order and quote them the ACL (read it cover to cover). Hope it helps!

[david837465]

Thanks for all the input.

Mourati - I did think of the ACL. I have a contact at City Ford, Alexandria. He had his service people look at it and try to get Ford to change them under warranty. Ford refused so they refused. I also tried making a complaint through NSW Fair Trading. The reply from Ford was that they would not repair out of warranty, but even if it was within warranty, the shocks were considered a fair wear and tear item so they wouldn't do it anyway! I thought after that I'd have to go through the Tribunal to get anywhere and I don't have the time or money to take on Ford's lawyers. I have no doubt Ford would rather spend more on legal costs, than the replacement cost of the part, just so they dont set a precedent for having to replace these parts. Do you have any further hints or tips how to go about this? I would love to see Ford cough up for them! Thanks

Gtlegend - thanks for the offer. I'll keep it in mind. I'm still hopeful of a more reasonably priced alternative, although I haven't ordered the UK parts yet. In the meantime the VIN is WF0FXXWPCFGL45716. Thanks

Shepherd - I have the ambiente, and yes, it's self leveling, not adaptive or driver select. You're right about the size of these things, the mechanic mentioned they were huge! The service manager you spoke to is probably right to a certain extent, but if it is rare, why won't Ford just admit the occasional dud and just pay up? (I realise you can't answer that, just venting) It doesn't seem like a huge issue with them, but I've found several examples of the same problem browsing various forums, including Greenspeed3's.

[thebigd]

Originally Posted by david837465

I have the ambiente, and yes, it's self leveling...

I was surprised to hear this too, given you have an MD Ambiente. Is it a wagon or hatch ?

[david837465]

Originally Posted by thebigd

I was surprised to hear this too, given you have an MD Ambiente. Is it a wagon or hatch ?

I have a wagon. I'm not sure if the self leveling was standard here or not. I've found docs showing it was an option in the UK. My car was a Hunter Health Dept fleet car before I had it. Don't think they would have paid for self leveling.

[garry1036]

I have been researching this myself, as i have a 2016 Ambiente Wagon with a leaking shock.
The only option that i can find is to purchase lowered springs and new standard struts and shocks.
I have some links below.

http://www.eibachdirect.com/p/935362...mondeo-v-.html

https://www.extramileautoparts.com.a...0l-2014-2019-8

https://www.extramileautoparts.com.a...eo-ambiente-20

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/koni-8250-1043

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/koni-8750-1113r

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/28435584...8AAOSwTMxf9F1q

Regards

[GTLEGEND]

Has anyone actually thought of the compromise fitting of the cheaper shocks may have on the ride quality, effects on ABS, ESC, DSC, AEB and other safety systems the OE shocks would have been designed to deal with. The MD Mondeo was far superior and more advanced vehicle than say a Falcon of the same era (while it lasted) in most aspects. It would be interesting to know if the cheaper aftermarket shocks actually stand up in comparison to the OE, I doubt it because the difference is usually genuine.

[david837465]

Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

Has anyone actually thought of the compromise fitting of the cheaper shocks may have on the ride quality, effects on ABS, ESC, DSC, AEB and other safety systems the OE shocks would have been designed to deal with. The MD Mondeo was far superior and more advanced vehicle than say a Falcon of the same era (while it lasted) in most aspects. It would be interesting to know if the cheaper aftermarket shocks actually stand up in comparison to the OE, I doubt it because the difference is usually genuine.

GTLEGEND, you make good points and I'm still not convinced by the UK parts option. Haven't ordered anything yet. But regarding the points you made, I've been driving around for months now with a defective shock, and it doesn't appear to have affected any of the systems you mentioned. Also, in my research I've come across a number of Brits who have swapped out the springs in their MD/Mk5 models for lower riding ones. None of them have reported any issues. Lastly, I found out the UK Mondeos in the MD/Mk5 series (the 2016 models at any rate) came with normal shocks as their standard equipment. The self leveling ones were an optional extra. So from that at least I can be sure the chassis is designed for normal shocks, and probably some of the systems too. As for the cheaper aftermarkets standing up to the OE's, my OE's failed after only 55000km's. That's bad. Especially when Ford charges $2400 before fitting! As my mechanic said, "They're just not worth it".

[cobrin]

Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

Has anyone actually thought of the compromise fitting of the cheaper shocks may have on the ride quality, effects on ABS, ESC, DSC, AEB and other safety systems the OE shocks would have been designed to deal with.

you make it sound like cheaper shocks are inferior. Aftermarket that are suitable for the intended purpose are often OE equivalent and sometimes better. I had poor underperforming suspension, replacing them with known quality aftermarket shocks&springs KYB/Monroe alternatives, restored a beautiful suspension. Best move I've done and 5yrs+ of complete enjoyment.



Aftermarket also cater to performance crowds. I wouldn't want to ever be held over a barrel for OE, that just serves Ford.

[GTLEGEND]

Originally Posted by cobrin

you make it sound like cheaper shocks are inferior. Aftermarket that are suitable for the intended purpose are often OE equivalent and sometimes better. I had poor underperforming suspension, replacing them with known quality aftermarket shocks&springs KYB/Monroe alternatives, restored a beautiful suspension. Best move I've done and 5yrs+ of complete enjoyment.



Aftermarket also cater to performance crowds. I wouldn't want to ever be held over a barrel for OE, that just serves Ford.

No did not mean that at all, what I was suggesting and I did say MAY in my first sentence, is that the OP is sort of going into this blind, so without verification by someone who has done it, best be careful of fitting any aftermarket regardless of price (could be cheaper or more expensive). Apart from ride quality, you are not going to know the effects on the other systems until you really need it (like before an accident) and I hope for all that is next to never.

If there is a cheaper option that has no issues and does the job equivalent or even better, then go for it. Win Win..

My post was more about being aware of what potential issues could be affected by fitting under performing shocks (maybe I should have used that instead of cheaper).

[NPS]

Hi all, my 2015 trend wagon seems to have "normal shocks "not electric anyway bottom mount is far from looking a normal mount. were the electric stabilisers an optional extra, none of the usual suppliers seem to have anything. Cheers NPS

[david837465]

Originally Posted by NPS

Hi all, my 2015 trend wagon seems to have "normal shocks "not electric anyway bottom mount is far from looking a normal mount. were the electric stabilisers an optional extra, none of the usual suppliers seem to have anything. Cheers NPS

From what I've found out so far, the trend and titanium should both be adaptive/driver select suspension. So should have some wiring attached for the controls. But that might be different for the 2015 model. Anyway, you won't find any aftermarket versions in Australia. Ebay occasionally gets some from the breakers, there's these at the moment

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15444890...MAAOSwQDRgmkjv

Look like they came out of a titanium. The seller should be able to tell you if they're right for you. Good luck

[cobrin]

Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

If there is a cheaper option that has no issues and does the job equivalent or even better, then go for it. Win Win..

My post was more about being aware of what potential issues could be affected by fitting under performing shocks (maybe I should have used that instead of cheaper).

Ah thanks for the clarification, I haven't felt the OP is going in blind, he's still researching. I assumed that he is trying to look for suitable OE replacements. I, too, agree you should shoot for OE where possible first or if you're wanting more, then sure higher performance parts makes sense.



I don't thing the vehicle dynamics nor its systems would be affected to the point of abnormal/unacceptable if the OP did away with self levelling for standard shocks with suitable springs. Self levelling is just that, it'll keep the vehicle at a specific ride height fully loaded or unladen. Again reversing that feature, I wouldn't think would ruin the vehicle.

[NPS]

Hi David, yes my car was a fleet car as well I think your right they wouldn't spend the extra. Noel

[david837465]

Originally Posted by NPS

Hi David, yes my car was a fleet car as well I think your right they wouldn't spend the extra. Noel

Hi again, been doing more research, I may have steered you in the wrong direction with my earlier comment that the trend had adaptive suspension. I've now found this article

https://www.motoring.com.au/ford-mon...evealed-47926/

It states both the ambiente and trend had self leveling suspension. So the eBay parts I gave you a link to would be wrong for your car.

That said, thanks to another ford forum site, I found out these are an aftermarket replacement for the self levelers. Although they appear to be normal shocks so the springs need changing too. Now I'm trying to find out what spring load I need. the site I got all this from is

https://ford.7zap.com/en/car/180/no/0/2778/20796/

and the aftermarket replacements are these

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bilstein...75.c1#viTabs_0

The original part number for the self levelers is 1841689. The above shocks are the only aftermarkets I can find that state they are a replacement for that part number.

Hope this helps

If anyone out there knows the correct spring load for a 2016 mondeo wagon with the 149kw petrol engine, please let me know.

Thanks

[NPS]

Hi David, yes thanks David the bilstein shocks look like the ones on my wagon. Noel