US Elections - Boring or Important to Aust?

[SYZ]

I understand that politics is probably a no-no here in Ford country, but I have a couple of brief questions I'd like to sneak in... mods please delete if this is a forum breach.

1) How can Ted Cruz run for POTUS if he's not a "natural born US citizen"? He was born in Canada to a Cuban father, and his grandfather was Spanish. This was always an (irrelevant) stumbling block for Obama. Cruz held sole Canadian citizenship for 32 years until 2005.

2) Is the fact that Cruz is firmly anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, rejects Obamacare, supports gun rights, favours increasing immigration five-fold, opposes legalising marijuana, favours the death penalty, opposes higher minimum wages, denies man-made global warming, and is a practicing Southern Baptist a concern which makes him a far worse candidate than Donald Trump?

[Giant Cranium]

Americans had to apologise for being American when bush was in, if by some silly reason trump gets in Americans will have to hide from the rest of the world.

Also the feel in the NYC is it will be Hillary

[sprintman1]

Anything but boring. Watch Adam Hills The Last Leg weekly TV show to get an alternate view

[Fordman1]

It's certainly interesting !

[Moby Vic]

Worst slate in history. I've always hated Hillary Clinton, but I'll vote for her over Trump or Cruz. It just makes me hate politics more than I always have.

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by Moby Vic

Worst slate in history. I've always hated Hillary Clinton, but I'll vote for her over Trump or Cruz. It just makes me hate politics more than I always have.

I was having this conversation with my brother. I was arguing the Republicans that don't want their guy won't vote at all. My brother was saying they'd vote Hillary to prevent an unwanted Republican.

[xxx000]

Candidates always had to be US born to be eligible so don't know what's changed.

Cruzs stance is typical extreme right Republican

[HO 3]

It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion..................

Cheers Mick

[superyob]

Originally Posted by SYZ

2) Is the fact that Cruz is firmly anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, rejects Obamacare, supports gun rights, favours increasing immigration five-fold, opposes legalising marijuana, favours the death penalty, opposes higher minimum wages, denies man-made global warming, and is a practicing Southern Baptist a concern which makes him a far worse candidate than Donald Trump?

Only if his hairpiece plays up on him...

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by SYZ

1) How can Ted Cruz run for POTUS if he's not a "natural born US citizen"? He was born in Canada to a Cuban father, and his grandfather was Spanish. This was always an (irrelevant) stumbling block for Obama. Cruz held sole Canadian citizenship for 32 years until 2005.

This is the best answer I can find:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...sident-update/

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

This is the best answer I can find:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...sident-update/

If that's the case I'm surprised Arnie didn't have a crack at getting the gig.

Cheers Mick

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

This is the best answer I can find:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...sident-update/

I'm guessing the critical difference between Obama's and Cruz's citizenship status is that one's an African-American, and the other a good ol' Christian white boy. Obviously a racist divide? The only voice in the wilderness questioning the validity of Cruz's presidential nomination is that of Donald Drumpf, AKA Trump.

I'm guessing that Trump will be knocked out of the race sometime soon in the next 8 months—when the Americans hopefully come to their senses. The potential Trump versus China/Korea scenario would concern me somewhat—to say the least.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by SYZ

I'm guessing the critical difference between Obama's and Cruz's citizenship status is that one's an African-American, and the other a good ol' Christian white boy. Obviously a racist divide? The only voice in the wilderness questioning the validity of Cruz's presidential nomination is that of Donald Drumpf, AKA Trump.

I'm guessing that Trump will be knocked out of the race sometime soon in the next 8 months—when the Americans hopefully come to their senses. The potential Trump versus China/Korea scenario would concern me somewhat—to say the least.

I hope you are right...

[marty351]

Trump ftw.

It's about time someone, who isn't a political robot governs where a country should go.

It might seem that Trump is just an idiot, a man who stands up, rather than be told how things should be. Time for a change.

We all live in interesting times.

Time to make it more interesting.

[OzriderXR8]

Originally Posted by marty351

Trump ftw.

It's about time someone, who isn't a political robot governs where a country should go.

It might seem that Trump is just an idiot, a man who stands up, rather than be told how things should be. Time for a change.

We all live in interesting times.

Time to make it more interesting.

Yes, it's about time someone that isn't a political robot stood up, someone with the best interests of the USA and the world as their motivation.

I doubt Trump has anyone's interests in mind but his own.

War with China anyone?

[marty351]

I wish we had that freedom here.

[Tassie f100]

Trump is doing his best to stir up trouble with the 99.9% of Muslims in the World who just want to go about their daily lives.If another major conflict breaks out in the World it will be instigated by Trump and his hating cronies

[xr6-FTW]

I don't mind if trump also came in, someone from out of nowhere like what marty says. To me if I were to vote there is nothing who seems worthy to vote in jeb bush etc who the **** would elect that dh in. Sure trump isn't perfect etc but there's no one that is a stand out. My old man wreckons he should get in because who knows what he will be like he says. It was like Regan back in the day he told me, everyone was scared he was going to start a nuclear war etc and he turned out to be one of the best presidents they had. Hell he was a movie star who turned to politics. So the question is how bad can trump be? He'd have my vote.

[marty351]

And the theorists begin.

Freedom of speech, political gain, respect.
That's how it works.



China is another matter, Trump is a businessman.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by marty351

Trump is a businessman.

A very bad one. An easy way to lose your shirt is to invest in one of Trump's 'ventures'. An excellent salesman, a poor businessman.

He's entertaining to watch, that I'll give him - but the entertainment mainly comes from his buffoonery and his inability to articulate a coherent answer to a question, instead he usually opts to go on the offensive in order to avoid answering a question.

Here's John Oliver skewering Trump. I guess we'll get an update this week as to whether Trump uses his oft threats of law suits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGc2nN9OguQ

Breakdown of his language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI

[Moby Vic]

Originally Posted by marty351

And the theorists begin.

Freedom of speech, political gain, respect.
That's how it works.



China is another matter, Trump is a businessman.

Trump is an excellent self-promoter, and that's it. His business ventures haven't really done that well, and he inherited millions.

[marty351]

Annie is foreign.
Refer to the constitution.

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by marty351

Annie is foreign.
Refer to the constitution.

Ok then, I'll take your word for it.................calling the big guy Annie is pretty adventurous though

Cheers Mick

[anto]

Originally Posted by SYZ

I understand that politics is probably a no-no here in Ford country, but I have a couple of brief questions I'd like to sneak in... mods please delete if this is a forum breach.

1) How can Ted Cruz run for POTUS if he's not a "natural born US citizen"? He was born in Canada to a Cuban father, and his grandfather was Spanish. This was always an (irrelevant) stumbling block for Obama. Cruz held sole Canadian citizenship for 32 years until 2005.

2) Is the fact that Cruz is firmly anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, rejects Obamacare, supports gun rights, favours increasing immigration five-fold, opposes legalising marijuana, favours the death penalty, opposes higher minimum wages, denies man-made global warming, and is a practicing Southern Baptist a concern which makes him a far worse candidate than Donald Trump?

No 2 is why I like him. except you are incorrect about him wanting to increase immigration, quite the opposite in fact.
I follow American politics and he is the only guy( yes including Hillary , she is a bloke isn't she..) with any integrity whether you agree with his position or not. The guy has done exactly what he Promised as a senator unlike Rubio ..no flip flopping . Trump is just an idiot who acts and talks like a schoolyard bully and Hillary is probably one of the most corrupt individuals to ever run.
Sanders is a socialist Nut job..which appeals to give me everything for free brigade
My opinion only..I'm not getting into any slanging matches.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by anto

Sanders is a socialist Nut job..
.

Not at all, in fact he be pretty centralist in Australia.

I may not agree with all of them but on his past performance he seems very honourable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...Bernie_Sanders

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by anto

No 2 is why I like him. Except you are incorrect about him wanting to increase immigration, quite the opposite in fact. [...]

This is a confusing issue.

Cruz, who announced his presidential bid this morning, once proposed an immediate increase in the base H-1B cap from 65,000 to 325,000. Cruz offered the H-1B increase as an amendment in 2013 to the Senate's comprehensive immigration bill.
—Patrick Thibodeau, Computerworld, 23 March 15.

And yet Cruz on his campaign site says, 12 months later: "Halt any increases in legal immigration so long as American unemployment remains unacceptably high. The purpose of legal immigration should be to grow the economy, not to displace American workers. Under no circumstances should legal immigration levels be adjusted upwards so long as work-force participation rates remain below historical averages".

—who to believe? 2015 Cruz or 2016 Cruz?

[superyob]

Originally Posted by SYZ

I understand that politics is probably a no-no here in Ford country, but I have a couple of brief questions I'd like to sneak in... mods please delete if this is a forum breach.

1) How can Ted Cruz run for POTUS if he's not a "natural born US citizen"? He was born in Canada to a Cuban father, and his grandfather was Spanish. This was always an (irrelevant) stumbling block for Obama. Cruz held sole Canadian citizenship for 32 years until 2005.

2) Is the fact that Cruz is firmly anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, rejects Obamacare, supports gun rights, favours increasing immigration five-fold, opposes legalising marijuana, favours the death penalty, opposes higher minimum wages, denies man-made global warming, and is a practicing Southern Baptist a concern which makes him a far worse candidate than Donald Trump?

Syz, you frame the second statement as if Mr Cruz is in contravention of some vitally important 'truths'. The majority of the world's population does not give a rat's about these things. They have only been molded into 'truths' in a small number of weakening western democracies...

The rise of Donald Trump can be in no small way attributed to the way the above falsehoods have been rammed down the throats of a silent majority...

The proponents of your listed causes are more dangerous to a society than anything Cruz can do...

[cheap]

Originally Posted by SYZ

I understand that politics is probably a no-no here in Ford country, but I have a couple of brief questions I'd like to sneak in... mods please delete if this is a forum breach.

1) How can Ted Cruz run for POTUS if he's not a "natural born US citizen"? He was born in Canada to a Cuban father, and his grandfather was Spanish. This was always an (irrelevant) stumbling block for Obama. Cruz held sole Canadian citizenship for 32 years until 2005.

2) Is the fact that Cruz is firmly anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, rejects Obamacare, supports gun rights, favours increasing immigration five-fold, opposes legalising marijuana, favours the death penalty, opposes higher minimum wages, denies man-made global warming, and is a practicing Southern Baptist a concern which makes him a far worse candidate than Donald Trump?

Wow, you have Cruz nailed, I mean you must have researched every socialist and democratic link on earth to get such a succinct perspective

How about Hillary. Let see, her hubby is/was a convicted liar and abuser of womens rights. That is a fact. Hillary supported and covered up for him throughout Bill's decades of abuse, she has never said sorry to any of the women. But Hillary says it is a "great big right wing conspiracy".

How about Hillary and her role in covering up a deadly terrorist attack in Benghazi. Nothing to look at right?

Hillary and her unsecured server, countless highly classified documents sitting in plain sight on her server. Her server was hacked into by numerous foreign governments. Is she as bad as Eric Sowdon, actually she is worse?

Hillary is a bitter, damaged and incompetent women. Much like someone we had in Australia.

Bernie, easy to understand. Bernie is commie. All he wants to do is take money from "rich" people (who ever they are) and give it to poor people. Like all commies, his grasp of mathematics isn't good. There isn't enough "rich" money for all of his promises.

Then there is Trump.

The best description I can give about Trump, he is a clone of Alan Bond and Clive Palmer. Trump is in it just for Trump, the consequences of Trump being president will probably result in WW3 and his impeachment (which comes before the other is the only question).

[MITCHAY]

Of course it is important for Australia and for the world generally. If it were only of any consequence to the US then most of the world couldn't give a **** to be honest.

I can't believe Trump can publicly say that he will build a border fence and make Mexico pay for it. And there are idiots who believe it will happen. Even he knows it won't

[Franco Cozzo]

Bush
Clinton
Bush
Token black guy

Then in the running you've got another Bush and another Clinton.

The nation of the 'free', yeah right