Ranger Outsells Hilux

[munners]

Sorry if this is posted elsewhere.

Just got a message that Ranger outsold Hilux for the first time ever?

Good work Ford (yeah i know new Hilux is around the corner but a win is a win)

Munners

[borough]

Don't get too excited as it was the old Hilux vs the updated Ranger. Even the Triton outsold the Hilux. Once the new Hilux is released it will be back above the Ranger

[rancidpunx]

In NZ the Ranger outsold the Hilux all of last year, and it is ahead this year.

[XR8putts]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

In NZ the Ranger outsold the Hilux all of last year, and it is ahead this year.

Like there needed to be further proof that Kiwis are smarter than Aussies

[simon varley]

doubt the updated Ranger is here in sufficient numbers yet to make a mark.

[turbo4]

Originally Posted by simon varley

doubt the updated Ranger is here in sufficient numbers yet to make a mark.

I'm fairly certain they weren't released until late August so you're probably right. In saying that though, there are heaps at the local dealer and I have probably already seen more new Rangers than FGX Falcons on the road in the last week or so.

[sprintman1]

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

The D-Max is the Colorado's deformed twin, its 130KW/380NM engine belongs back in 2005.

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

The D-Max is the Colorado's deformed twin, its 130KW/380NM engine belongs back in 2005.

Another sucked in by peak figures. Look at area under the curve for towing

[Terror_Tree]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

Haters gonna hate

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by Terror_Tree

Haters gonna hate

Actually no, Ranger would be my second choice. Hate is a Navara or Amarok (worked at Nissan/VW stealership).

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

Your comments' in another thread encouraged me to look into the DMAX more.

What I found was despite the others having better power and torque figures the D-Max had the best 0-100 time.

all except the 550NM Navarra (old model now)

it also offered the best fuel economy.

yes its has older tech, and looks a bit bland compared to the others but it stacks up well.

the others aren't Crap though, they beat it on looks and refinement

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Your comments' in another thread encouraged me to look into the DMAX more.

What I found was despite the others having better power and torque figures the D-Max had the best 0-100 time.

all except the 550NM Navarra (old model now)

it also offered the best fuel economy.

yes its has older tech, and looks a bit bland compared to the others but it stacks up well.

the others aren't Crap though, they beat it on looks and refinement

It kills the others on reliability. These days that and fuel efficiency and towing capability are all that interest me, looks and refinement meh

[Sioso]

One tonne Renault pick-up entering the mix next year:
http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial...revealed-53638

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Sioso

One tonne Renault pick-up entering the mix next year:
http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial...revealed-53638

Basically a Navara I believe

[comagutsa]

Originally Posted by Sioso

One tonne Renault pick-up entering the mix next year:
http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial...revealed-53638

looks good

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

You couldn't be any more vague if you tried!

[castellan]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

I do agree with all the sprintman has said.
For reliability it's the D-Max by far that wins it hands down.
I like the look of the Ford better but they are more trouble like the rest of the rubbish are.

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by castellan

I do agree with all the sprintman has said.
For reliability it's the D-Max by far that wins it hands down.
I like the look of the Ford better but they are more trouble like the rest of the rubbish are.

I was of course joking about the Ranger , a few didn't get it. And there's a reason Isuzu are now #1 in small, medium, and large trucks in Australia, reliability and fuel efficiency. And 2016 D-MAX will be twin turbo 2.5 and 70nm more torque and even better SFC.

[Sprintey]

Interesting your views sprintman1. Worked all over Oz with a 60 with the Isuzu developed 2H which never missed a beat & I grew to love this reliability, so I'd be partial to that. Is the MU-X same mechanicals as D-MAX?

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Interesting your views sprintman1. Worked all over Oz with a 60 with the Isuzu developed 2H which never missed a beat & I grew to love this reliability, so I'd be partial to that. Is the MU-X same mechanicals as D-MAX?

Basically yes. Same truck engine and gearbox and needs a good set of springs and shocks even more than the ute for on road work.

[FTe342]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Interesting your views sprintman1. Worked all over Oz with a 60 with the Isuzu developed 2H which never missed a beat & I grew to love this reliability, so I'd be partial to that. Is the MU-X same mechanicals as D-MAX?

Rear suspension is not leaf spring like the ute. Instead its a solid axle with trailing arms and coil springs. Very capable off road as the travel is better than Dmax. Upgrade recommended if you are towing.

The MUX is selling very well judging by the number of new MUX members joining the Isuzu forums

[FTe342]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

I was of course joking about the Ranger , a few didn't get it. And there's a reason Isuzu are now #1 in small, medium, and large trucks in Australia, reliability and fuel efficiency. And 2016 D-MAX will be twin turbo 2.5 and 70nm more torque and even better SFC.

Whether the 2.5 twin turbo turns out to be a better proposition in the long run only time will tell. Smaller engines punching out big numbers have to be suspect on longevity. Could be the case that the 3.0 current model becomes more desirable due to reliability

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by FTe342

Whether the 2.5 twin turbo turns out to be a better proposition in the long run only time will tell. Smaller engines punching out big numbers have to be suspect on longevity. Could be the case that the 3.0 current model becomes more desirable due to reliability

Agree but Isuzu know their diesels and it's been available in other countries for a fair while now.

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

Can you elaborate?

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Can you elaborate?

Engineering, build quality. For example look at a 4JJ1 con rod compared to the 'others'.

[4VCLEVO]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Engineering, build quality. For example look at a 4JJ1 con rod compared to the 'others'.

Here's my 4JJ1, melted piston after 150,000km

[deluxe_]

Ownage Continues.

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by 4VCLEVO

Here's my 4JJ1, melted piston after 150,000km
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As you well know one failure almost certainly from bad fuel means bugger all. Isuzu set the std for reliability and one of the reasons Toyota signed to use Isuzu diesels in their trucks and cars worldwide. Most of the mines and power companies have also moved to Isuzu.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Engineering, build quality. For example look at a 4JJ1 con rod compared to the 'others'.

What's the deal with a 4JJ1 conrod compared to others?