Some worldly advice for dealing with police on the side of the road.

[Full Noise]

I found this page some time ago and thought about posting it in here to help some people who are either in the process of, or have yet to learn the hard way when it comes to dealing with coppers on the side of the road.

The author of this page is a bloke by the name of Boris and he rides a bike, that’s a bike with a F@#$%&g big motor in it type of bike.

The information on this page translates easily to people driving performance cars, trucks or just about anything really.

I hope people here find the page informative.

http://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/police-side-road/

[Road_Warrior]

Some good advice there.

[ford71V8]

Ha, that was good read.
All fairly obvious stuff though

[JC]

I like this bit:
That is why they are the Highway Patrol. It’s what they do. And no, they don’t have anything better to do with their time like catch child molestors, rapists and murderers. That’s what detectives do. The Highway Patrol patrols the highways. They will tell you it is to keep people safe and save lives, and I have no doubt that some of the more steely-eyed ones actually believe this to be the case. The fact remains is that there is a quota, and they will and do meet these quotas because there are budgetary considerations to bear in mind. It costs money to punt a big V8 around the place, you know. Your money.

[blueoval]

Definitely a good read. I didn't know you weren't under any obligation to answer his questions though. I was under the impression you were. That's good to know. I may just keep my mouth shut next time instead of admitting or fumbling through my words only for it to be considered an admission of guilt.

Also with recording the conversation with your phone, could the cop get all funny if you were to use your phone while being held by police? (i.e fine you for using your phone while in the car etc). After all it would be another issue of he said, she said. What if you had a dash cam and set it to record/film?

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by blueoval

Definitely a good read. I didn't know you weren't under any obligation to answer his questions though. I was under the impression you were. That's good to know. I may just keep my mouth shut next time instead of admitting or fumbling through my words only for it to be considered an admission of guilt.

Also with recording the conversation with your phone, could the cop get all funny if you were to use your phone while being held by police? (i.e fine you for using your phone while in the car etc). After all it would be another issue of he said, she said. What if you had a dash cam and set it to record/film?

How could the copper fine you for using your phone for recording, after all the law states you must pull over & stop before you use mobiles, no law to stop using mobile in vehicle unless you are driving.

If dash cam is in car just swivel it around & record, no law stopping you.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by blueoval

Definitely a good read. I didn't know you weren't under any obligation to answer his questions though. I was under the impression you were. That's good to know. I may just keep my mouth shut next time instead of admitting or fumbling through my words only for it to be considered an admission of guilt.

It would be different if it was a criminal matter involving the aforementioned serious crimes and a detective or two.

But I've found in the past that owning up and admitting you've ******** up can get you quite a bit of leniency...one occasion it was the difference between 3 and 6 demerit points and quite a substantial fine.

[BradEL]

Haha I get the impression he probably puts his own advice into practice quite regularly

[Kryton]

All commonsense, but unfortunatley, some people think they are more important and dont need to have respect for other people.
Have a look around at the "chip on my shoulder" society that we have today along with the "its everyone elses fault but my own" mentality that is ripe amoungst the population.

[blueoval]

It's a tough one.

I am usually the first to admit when I am wrong and am happy to accept it, but if I believe I am not, would it be in my best interest to keep my mouth shut than to plead innocence? That is pretty much what I was trying to ask. Im not looking to get out of anything here if I know I did the wrong thing, but reading that article made me think, what if?

[tut0r]

Originally Posted by blueoval

It's a tough one.

I am usually the first to admit when I am wrong and am happy to accept it, but if I believe I am not, would it be in my best interest to keep my mouth shut than to plead innocence? That is pretty much what I was trying to ask. Im not looking to get out of anything here if I know I did the wrong thing, but reading that article made me think, what if?

Say for example a cop said you were in fact doing 80 in a 60 zone and came up to you and asked why. If you truly believe you were not, I would just say I wasn't aware that I was doing 80, may I please see the camera. If he doesn't want to show it to you just drop it and be honest.

I've been stung twice in my life for well over the speed limit, first time was 28 over and was a general duties cop, guy aggressively pulled my mate and I over and was more than polite, he even said he thinks he could of held the gun longer and got us for a higher reading but left it at that.

The second time I was done for 54 over in a 100 zone, the cop got out of the car walked up showed me straight away the zap gun he got me at and told me to wait in the car, I didn't even need to say anything he gave me the fine and demerit points($1788, 6 points), quick lecture and was back on his way end of story.

[xisled]

This got a few laughs from me. At the bottom of the page.

Important things to keep in mind
This not America. There is no Bill of Rights. You are not a lawyer. It doesn’t matter if the policeman puts the wrong date on the ticket or misspells your name. Do not argue. Do not be rude. Do not be a smart-****. Being truncheoned in the legs is better than being truncheoned in the kidneys or the face. Do not try and pat the police dog

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

I hope people here find the page informative.

http://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/police-side-road/

Yep, that's a keeper

[The Monty]

Very sound advice, the only thing I would say is incorrect for us bananabenders is that there is no quota.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by The Monty

Very sound advice, the only thing I would say is incorrect for us bananabenders is that there is no quota.

Nor for Sandgropers.

[danzvtil]

Put car in Park, hands visible on steering wheel, and a cheery "Good afternoon Officer, its a nice day for it" has gotten me out of a number of minor infringements.

[supershifty]

99% of police officers have treated me with total respect when I've done the wrong thing, being it DUI or speeding. I don't give attitude back - been caught fair and square, the speeding offences have been ticketed a few k's lower so less points and coin lost, some of the DUI offences they've driven me back home - I've struck a few assholes that needed an attitude adjusting - they've probably just had a bad day, or are just assholes.

Cheers

[CoupeKing]

And if you get pulled over at night, it doesnt hurt to slap the interior light on before they approach your car. Just dont try that on a bike, he`s likely to give you Drug test.

[Silver Ghia]

I love the story in one of the comments further down in that article:

Every once in a while you strike a Policeman (as opposed to Copper) who is both practical and has a sense of humour. some years ago I was shifting along on a reasonably remote stretch of highway in North Queensland at a little over twice the legal speed and was nabbed by a Highway Patrol officer. I saw his mate witht eh zap gun and bowing to the inevitable I slowed down and pulled in under a shady tree. The Policeman arrived in his car, walkign towards me he adjusted his gun belt, tweaked his mirror backed sunnys and ensured that his hair was neat under his leather cap. when he got to me he said "Good afternoon sir, may I see your pilot's licence please?"

So, I got my commercial pilot's licence out and handed it to him. he looked at it intently, then looked at me, then back at my pilot's licence. After about 30 seconds he said "there's really no comeback for this is there?:". I said "that's up to you officer".

He said, "that's the first time that's ever happened, how about you just slow up a bit and see you around".....

And that was it.

[XXX747]

Engine always off when a cop pulls you over too. It makes them feel more comfortable.

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by XXX747

Engine always off when a cop pulls you over too. It makes them feel more comfortable.

And hopefully they wont notice how lumpy it sounds

I opened the link thinking what words of wisdom is this idiot going to give, and I have to say its all pretty smart stuff from where I stand

most of it I have always done, and the other stuff has never been an issue BUT the big one I see people stuff up all the time is the attitude test. Not once have I heard r seen some one win a battle with a highway patrol officer by being a smart ****. but I have dodged a bullet by being respectful and either been let off with a warning or written down a range

True story (I was the passenger)
Xmas day 2 or 3 years ago, I had had a big job from 23:00 to 05:00 arriving home just in time for the kids to be awake to open their presents so come 11:45 I was smashed (tired) the kids are in the back seat and my wife is driving, (I wouldn't have been safe given my lack of sleep) to set the seen its drizzling and shes doing 65 in a 60 zone as we had already had the in-laws on the phone smashing us for being late (No excuse) Hwy Patrol coming the other way pull a u turn and pull my wife over, as the area has no gutters my wife pulled right off the road and turned the engine off, he walked to the window and ran through the usual, its Christmas day double demerit points zero tolerance, my wife in her most polite voice is apologetic but not to the point of admitting wrong. then I'm still at a loss as to how or why, the officer said, 'BUT' it looks like your trying to do the right thing, your husband looks like he had a big night and your driving as a result, you've pulled right off the road so I don't have to stand in the traffic and it appears you've made an honest mistake, on your way and have a merry xmas.

Now the stage where my wife would be classed as a young hottie to the officer passed at least 15 years and 2 kids before this officer joined the force so there was none of that, this whole win was purely based on my wifes attitude towards the officer

[Itsme]

Common courtesy never goes astray, well at least it has worked for me majority of times, yea I know you might get the odd overzealous constable plod doing his job but hey **** happens at times.

[mik]

Originally Posted by trublu

Common courtesy never goes astray, well at least it has worked for me majority of times, yea I know you might get the odd overzealous constable plod doing his job but hey **** happens at times.

Agreed, treating people the way you expect to be treated yourself is a pretty safe bet they will be civil back even if they are going to ping you for being naughty, ****ing them off is only going to end up with all probability the fine being bigger or your vehicle being on the watch list every time constable sees you on the road in future.
That`s not to say you wont be feeling a bit agro after they ping you 200 bucks for not wearing your seat belt in truck and another 200 for a mistake in the log book, but hey, do the crime ..... pay the fine.
looking at it from constable plods side , im sure dealing with the public day in and day out must be an absolute pain in the kyber some times.

[pottery beige]

policemans have incredible powers of discretion

still scratching my head though after lighting em up out front of radelaide casino

bonnet up, quick chat, on your way

wtf

[MercurySilver]

i hardly get pulled over
maybe for a breatho
once a year


touch wood.
watch me get pulled over 4 times on the weekend now lol

[noosacuda]

I don't mind (well not too much) being pinged for speeding fair and square- yes i was doing 114 in a 100 zone, no i don't have a reason, just cruising listening for noises that weren't there in my 500ci big block Mopar, bugger! But i got pulled over 16 years ago in NSW by the Gestapo Pig from Hell, why? Because i had no front number plate on my RX7, i had genuinely lost it coming down the New England highway somewhere, after his smoking U turn at the traffic lights at 11pm, he blasted me severely for only having one number plate, fined me, so i wrote a letter/stat dec complaining about this incident and eventually got a reply recinding the fine. But their attitudes are understandable sometimes by the idiots you see them dealing with on the tv shows.

[richo77]

That article reminded me of a youtube clip featuring Chris Rock called How not to get your *** kicked by the police.

[ebxr82nv]

"Don't pat the police dog" wise words of advice