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Old 07-09-2014, 01:49 PM   #1
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Default Is Power steering oil and transmission oil the same.

Today whilst driving the power steering got progressivly heavier to almost undrivable. When I stopped and looked red oil leaking profusely out from under the car. A resevoir in the engine bay is empty but handbook doesnt say what the resevoir is. Cap says ATF only so originally I was assuming it was the PS resevoir but now not 100% sure. Any Ideas plz. Not a Ford a BMW.

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Old 07-09-2014, 02:58 PM   #2
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A lot of cars use ATF as power steering fluid, should list in the manual
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Old 07-09-2014, 04:36 PM   #3
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Thanks Blueford260

All sorted, used up RACQ we pay for and never use, had it towed to Mr Fixit man but I went to Supercheap had a look and bought ATF, put it in and drove 500mtrs, lots of groaning and whirring noises so parked it and called RACQ.
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Old 07-09-2014, 05:04 PM   #5
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need to use the valvoline ps fluid made for the fords.
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. . . .But its a BMW
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Need to know what sort of car it is. Some cars use DEX 3, Falcons use Formula F (?), some hondas use Fork Fluid.
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Best to put the specified stuff in it ...... oils ain't oils.
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No, theyre not the same. You'll also find some cars like Hondas and Beemers use specific fluid in their systems.
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Old 07-09-2014, 06:07 PM   #10
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Some of those on the shelf said used in PS systems It went through so fast it wont hurt it as whatever split or came adrift it was substantial. There was nothing in the handbook about what type or how much should go in and as there was so much noise I parked it and left it for the towie and now the mechanic.
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Old 07-09-2014, 08:25 PM   #11
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YES they are fundamentally the SAME, as in they are the same "class" of hydraulic fluids.

HOWEVER there are MANY different formulations, it is definitely NOT "one bottle suits all."

You must use the correct fluid specified for your car. Furthermore you will find that in many cars it is DIFFERENT fluid for the tranny & PS.
And whilst some formulations may be similar, you have no way of knowing, so best to stick with the correct one.
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I Googled BMW powersteering fluid, it said the reservoir with ATF was for the p/s and to use Dex3.
That was a Beemer forum.
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Hi. Most PS systems can use ATF including falcons up to around AU. The additive package that makes one ATF different from another tends to change the way that the clutches in autos slip when changing gears (shift quality) and at the temperature that the trans normally runs at. None of this affects most power steering systems which is why the recommendation is usually for the same trans fluid as what the autos are filled with, that is early falcons (mid 60's to mid 80's) type F, mid 80's to mid EA use dex3, 4 speed EA on used various "power steering fluids" as these were cheaper than 4 speed auto fluid. Cheers MD
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Hi im new in this forum and needs help some help of u guys about ford fg xr6 power steering oil leaks, been to the mechanic and i have been told i need to replace power steering hoses kit without looking much
Can u guys find out the leaking point or should i change the whole thing?
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:48 PM   #15
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^ Happened to mums FG, gotta replace the High pressure hose. Cost around $400 or so. Post in the FG section too.
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^ Happened to mums FG, gotta replace the High pressure hose. Cost around $400 or so. Post in the FG section too.
Wow, $400.
I just did the HP p/s hose on my nephews AU, $70
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Wow, $400.
I just did the HP p/s hose on my nephews AU, $70
$70, damn that's expensive.

My mates old chevy P/S hose cost him $25.

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$70, damn that's expensive.

My mates old chevy P/S hose cost him $25.

That included p/s fluid and still cheaper than retail.

Is the Chevy his wifes daily?

If it was a 70's car I'd have ripped the P/S out altogether and driven it like a man, but you cant do that with modern ****.
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That included p/s fluid and still cheaper than retail.

Is the Chevy his wifes daily?

If it was a 70's car I'd have ripped the P/S out altogether and driven it like a man, but you cant do that with modern ****.
Included fluid & labour
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I've been using a Valvoline, FG Steering pump oil for my 2010 FG. Basically empty the reserviour and top up. Avoid holding hardlock, the PS Pump is pumping no where.
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