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17-02-2014, 07:31 AM | #1 | |||
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Ford production to fall to 80 cars a day http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257C7F001D873F Quote:
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17-02-2014, 09:27 AM | #2 | ||
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Wow. I remember when they were doing 520 a day.........
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18-02-2014, 04:50 PM | #3 | ||
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17-02-2014, 10:32 AM | #4 | ||
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Sad days indeed, to be expected though.
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17-02-2014, 10:59 AM | #5 | ||
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Wasn't this announced a couple of weeks ago or whatever...?
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17-02-2014, 11:05 AM | #6 | |||
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http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11413387
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17-02-2014, 11:18 AM | #8 | ||
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Is this a combination of sedan / ute and terri ?
So @ 25 of each per day. What's the split. Has falcon dived under 40 per day ? Production til 2016, how and why at this rate ? |
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17-02-2014, 11:40 AM | #9 | ||
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I remember when I visited the Mitsubishi plant in their final years and was on the assembly line I said to the SQA "oh so they are on a break?" as the assembly line appeared to be stationary. On closer inspection the line was moving but at a snails pace. It was disheartening to see as I remember the same place 10 years earlier was doing 280+ cars a days. I suspect the Ford plant would look equally depressing at 80 cars per day.
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17-02-2014, 04:53 PM | #10 | |||
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17-02-2014, 07:20 PM | #11 | |||
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But a significant number of magnas were being exported to the US as a "Daimante" (some times more than 200 a day) They didn't get an export contract with the 380. Was one of the main reasons they went down the gurgler... |
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17-02-2014, 03:56 PM | #12 | |||
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Especially with only producing 80 cars a day which would be unsustainable. |
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17-02-2014, 04:07 PM | #13 | ||
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One of these Fords being built now could be a good buy. Things going a bit slower along the line theres more time to assemble one with more care / less rush.
Or don't assembly lines work that way? |
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17-02-2014, 04:38 PM | #14 | |||
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In theory quality should be the same but who knows ? |
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17-02-2014, 05:00 PM | #15 | ||
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...but less people to do the same amount of assembly work.
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17-02-2014, 05:05 PM | #16 | ||
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And done by people who know that in the "shockingly short notice period" of three fricking years that they won't have a job.
I mean, you'd hope they're going to do the right thing, but history shows what happens when a workforce has a loooong time notice that they won't have a job...think British Leyland, etc. Quality just goes downhill...fast. |
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17-02-2014, 07:57 PM | #17 | |||
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Seriously if you think otherwise go buy a Korean car and **** off from here. |
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17-02-2014, 09:27 PM | #18 | |||
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hey wow! i was recently made redundant in vehicle manuf we all knew the tap on the shoulder was coming we didnt care, we were smashing out the highest quality vehicles right until the end with pride |
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17-02-2014, 09:58 PM | #19 | |||
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But you know better right? And do you think it's better to know you will be losing your job in the future, but who knows when, having it constantly running through your thoughts day after day or to have it done on the spot where you get a clean break and the chance to move onto a new job the next day. Walk a mile in someones elses shoes you absolute tool. |
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17-02-2014, 05:08 PM | #20 | |||
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Maybe they clock on in the morning and are all done by smoko. |
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17-02-2014, 05:22 PM | #21 | ||
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I'm going to be an optimist. I think the vehicles they're building now will be better than average. Real gems with just that bit more care taken.
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17-02-2014, 05:43 PM | #22 | ||
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I have mentioned before that if things get really bad they might actually close down sooner than later.....Any of the BIG 3 of them that is.
BIG news like this changes peoples perceptions of the economy and it also makes people spend less and save more knowing that the future is bleak, so new cars are the first on the list of budgeting/saving for the future. |
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17-02-2014, 06:20 PM | #23 | ||
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why would anyone buy them when there not ever advertised , its self destruction , ford usa have wanted to shut shop here for years ,
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17-02-2014, 10:00 PM | #25 | ||
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Well said - certainly more tools than Falcons. Car Industry experts that earn their money cutting grass for a living.
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17-02-2014, 10:06 PM | #26 | ||
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Spoken like a true unionist . So now management is smart , perhaps if they were able to get rid of the " deadwood " years ago they might have been in a better position before it got to this point . All bye and bye now of course .
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17-02-2014, 10:36 PM | #27 | ||
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.... get a life.
Perhaps they needed to employee more hero's like ur self to undermine Australia's working conditions and forego public holidays, penalty rates, rdo's, sick leave etc. Oh but hang on, yes I know, the right wing tossas actually enjoy and relish what the left has achieved.
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18-02-2014, 09:53 PM | #28 | |||
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I work in a Government Department and our main issue is that of sick leave. Our agreement is VERY generous with employees accruing 18 days sick leave per year. Might I add that they accrue for as long as the employee is working there. I.e., work 2 years, you accrue 36 days etc - they don't lose them. Many private organisations only get 10 and some don't carry over to the next year. As a Manager, I have no problem when people use their sick leave IF THEY ARE SICK. The trouble with Australian workplace culture is that many people believe that these sick leave days are also to be used when they ARE NOT SICK. They view them as an 'entitlement' rather than an 'insurance'. Productivity drops and the costs rise. Doesn't matter whether it's public or private industry - it's the same thing. I would like a union delegate to explain to me why it is good practice to have union members standing outside a workplace with fake 'sick bags' with info inside on how to take sick leave and the minimal information that they need to give their boss when calling in sick. I would think a union would want to have a high performing and RELIABLE workforce representing them. Unfortunately that is rarely the case in the area that I work in (Think a large Gov dept of over 35000 staff). We have fantastic conditions, great pay, yet we cannot get our attendance figures to improve. As Managers, we need to take some responsibility for this. Alas, I think we are shovelling the proverbial up a hill due to our Australian workplace culture. I do want to say that 99% of my workers give 110% when they are at work. It's just this entitlement and feeling that it's OK to 'chuck a sickie' that is at the heart of many problems in all industries. I'll leave you with this little article re Toyota. It's something that I put to my workers in a hope that it will place some context. Government job or not - anything can be sub contracted out these days and regardless of the union promoting that it's ok to 'chuck a sickie' as that's your 'entitlement', I value my job and I also value my workers and want them to KEEP THEIR JOB. A panellist on a current affairs program related an instance many would have missed. Toyota CEO, Akio Toyoda, was giving a luncheon address to a business group, (paraphrased): “Two years ago we were working so hard to create conditions whereby we could stay in this wonderful country and produce cars. "We had restructured the business and, despite acceding to recent union demands for even better wages and conditions, we were seeing a dim light flickering at the end of the tunnel. “We were honest with our employees and had explained the seriousness of the company’s economic plight. "They had assured us of their cooperation, so we determined to all pull together in a desperate attempt keep the company viable. “There was an air of camaraderie, a feeling of hope. “It was Australia Day that week and it fell on a Thursday. On the Friday thirty percent of our workforce didn’t turn up, thirty percent called in sick. “That’s when I finally realised we were stuffed.” from Larry Pickering
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19-02-2014, 05:06 PM | #29 | |||
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18-02-2014, 10:35 PM | #30 | |||
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Pal I have news for you , I like many Australians are getting tired of the same old bleating about sickies , holiday pay and public holidays and how you fought for them . You didn't fight for them and neither did the current bunch of tools that are in opposition . They were fought for by a group of people decades ago who had a lot more moral standing and ethics than your current bunch . Only thing their good at is stabbing each other in the back in the quest for power . |
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