hydrogen fuel cell car on sale 2015

[mik]

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...ogen_420-420x0

[Mr Brooksy]

Good news for the US. Even if they do produce Hydrogen powered cars, how long would it take to retro fit fuel stations? And how do they store it?! Same questions still remain, except that the production price of the cars have dropped considerably! 1Million to 50000 US!

[chevypower]

nice! But according to BTTF2, we should have flying cars in 2015.

[aussie muscle]

i think the fuel stations will be the same as LPG, just stick a tank on site. i think hydrogen is a better idea than plug in electric, esp since most grid electricity is coal.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by mik

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...ogen_420-420x0

It is nice to see predictions made in the media occasionally become true. Toyota will commence sale of the Mirai in the US this year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Mirai#United_States

[cheap]

The usual barriers will come into play, range, cost, depreciation, maintenance, convenience and existing technology (the fossil fuel industry) will not exactly greet this with open arms.

Remind me, what problem is this new car trying to solve?

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by cheap

Remind me, what problem is this new car trying to solve?

The move to an alternative source of fuel which is abundant, cheap and has less environmental impact than crude oil based fuels.

[cheap]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

The move to an alternative source of fuel which is abundant, cheap and has less environmental impact than crude oil based fuels.

100% fossil fuel cars arguably meet two of those 3 criteria (abundant + cheap) and year upon year they have less environmental impact

Hybrids arguably meets one those criteria

Full electric (Tesla) arguably meets one of those criteria

So where does hydrogen car fit into the criteria?

At unit price of >$50,000 the hydrogen car certainly isn't cheap. Remind me how is the hydrogen made?

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by cheap

100% fossil fuel cars arguably meet two of those 3 criteria (abundant + cheap) and year upon year they have less environmental impact

Hybrids arguably meets one those criteria

Full electric (Tesla) arguably meets one of those criteria

So where does hydrogen car fit into the criteria?

At unit price of >$50,000 the hydrogen car certainly isn't cheap. Remind me how is the hydrogen made?

Fossil fuels are not abundant.

All current alternatives to fossil fuels have their shortcomings. It does not mean we should stop trying.

The first horseless carriages were also not cheap. I suspect you own a car which implies it is now more accessible than it once was. Any new technology will be expensive at first.

[Sabantien]

Originally Posted by cheap

The usual barriers will come into play, range, cost, depreciation, maintenance, convenience and existing technology (the fossil fuel industry) will not exactly greet this with open arms.

Remind me, what problem is this new car trying to solve?

It would be a big help in busy cities, cars giving off water instead of all the pollutants that currently come out of them.

In Australia the downside would be the electricity used to produce the hydrogen would all come from fossil fuels.

[GASWAGON]

Glad we only have to wait the rest of this year and not until 2016.

Lets get this hydrogen show on the road...........ASAP!!!!!!!!!!