Speeding fine but wrong rego

[rusty_]

Hey not sure if im posting this in the right place, but a couple of days ago i got a speeding fine but noticed the registration was incorrect. I spoke to the Civic compliance people and she told me to write a letter in. Im not too great with words and dont want to pay a fine that doesnt have the correct information on it.

Has anyone had this problem before?
or know what to say?
and what my outcome should be?

[paule11]

Have known a few blokes who got out of speeding fines by sending a lettter questioning the validity of the fine stating that the speeding ticket is not for a car they own

[benoxr]

Just keep the letter simple by saying the rego as stated is not your vehicle therefore you are returning the paperwork to the sender. I wouldnt offer anymore information.
Years ago, I was in court for speeding and when the police prosecutor read out the details, he had my rego plate details wrong. I made mention of it to the Magistrate and he dismissed the whole fine.
I remember the cop secretly saying to me afterwards "I'll get you one day, so look out". :

[rusty_]

ah yea thanks for that, by the sounds of what you and some of my friends say, i can get out of this. just need good wording in the letter. hopefully someone pops up and says what they have written

[paule11]

and keep a copy of the letter and when you sent it

[prydey]

if you know that it was you that was speeding and it is merely an administration error - just man up and pay the damn fine already.

all these threads where people can't handle the consequences of their actions are getting rather tiresome.

[iliov]

Originally Posted by prydey

if you know that it was you that was speeding and it is merely an administration error - just man up and pay the damn fine already.

all these threads where people can't handle the consequences of their actions are getting rather tiresome.

Why should he man up if he doesn't have too? People like you prydey should seriously just keep their mouths shut.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by iliov

Why should he man up if he doesn't have too? People like you prydey should seriously just keep their mouths shut.

hey i've got broad shoulders, fire away!

[Chopped]

I'm pretty sure they changed the law a while ago which now allows them to correct the mistake and re-issue the ticket.

I got off a ticket in the early nineties due to two different dates showing on the ticket. I then got a ticket in the early noughties which had incorrect spelling of the street name. I tried the old letter trick and got one back about a month later stating they had the right to correct the mistake and re-issue it.

At best you could delay the inevitable by a few months.

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by Chopped

I'm pretty sure they changed the law a while ago which now allows them to correct the mistake and re-issue the ticket.

I got off a ticket in the early nineties due to two different dates showing on the ticket. I then got a ticket in the early noughties which had incorrect spelling of the street name. I tried the old letter trick and got one back about a month later stating they had the right to correct the mistake and re-issue it.

At best you could delay the inevitable by a few months.

Yes they have changed the law

I got a fine 12 or so months ago and theofficer put it down as being $2005.00 not $205.00 i thought woo hoo i may get out of this one even though i knew i was speeding 68 detected speed fined for doing 65 in a 60 zone

the officer turned up at my door 2 days later to re issue the fine

I say just pay it now

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by iliov

Why should he man up if he doesn't have too? People like you prydey should seriously just keep their mouths shut.

at least people like prydey try to look at things from two sides and not just the one that helps them

[iliov]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

at least people like prydey try to look at things from two sides and not just the one that helps them

Who cares, help a fellow forum member out. help him get out of the fine. stop being such technical nerds.

[ED Classic]

Originally Posted by prydey

if you know that it was you that was speeding and it is merely an administration error - just man up and pay the damn fine already.

all these threads where people can't handle the consequences of their actions are getting rather tiresome.

and pay registred post

[EB 2 XR8]

Originally Posted by prydey

if you know that it was you that was speeding and it is merely an administration error - just man up and pay the damn fine already.

all these threads where people can't handle the consequences of their actions are getting rather tiresome.

pffttt whos gunna do that?

if you got a chance to get out of a fine - you would.

simple.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by prydey

if you know that it was you that was speeding and it is merely an administration error - just man up and pay the damn fine already.

that would be silly. there are a few simple things they need to have done in order to have issued a valid fine. they failed - why should they get rewarded for it?

how ******** are government departments when we want something out of them and we dont fill out their stupid paperwork to their liking?

[rusty_]

thanks brnoxr, im glad you got out of it. i wish we had a voice recorder everytime we spoke to police, i wonder how long they would have a job for.

yea well if they can write out wrong information then wheres the justice of that. police these days think there gods, and everyone is a criminal. so if it was or wasnt me, and i can get out of a fine, i will.

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by rusty_

thanks brnoxr, im glad you got out of it. i wish we had a voice recorder everytime we spoke to police, i wonder how long they would have a job for.

yea well if they can write out wrong information then wheres the justice of that. police these days think there gods, and everyone is a criminal. so if it was or wasnt me, and i can get out of a fine, i will.

I for one couldn't care less if you can get away with this or not, but in my opinion, and my opinion only, you are just another example of everything that is wrong with brat kids today, (before I am accused of lumping all kids into the same basket, read what I said) To break the law and get away with it is one thing, to justify it with this tripe is completely another.
ps Fair call prydey, I'm with you

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by rusty_

Hey not sure if im posting this in the right place, but a couple of days ago i got a speeding fine but noticed the registration was incorrect. I spoke to the Civic compliance people and she told me to write a letter in. Im not too great with words and dont want to pay a fine that doesnt have the correct information on it.

Has anyone had this problem before?
or know what to say?
and what my outcome should be?

Was it an on the spot fine or did you get it in the mail.?
How much of the rego was incorrect?

[jaydee]

I'm with you prydey, do the crime, pay the fine.
If it was you then they will just re issue the fine with the correct rego, if it wasn't you then take it to court.
I got a parking ticket in Tassie on holidays recently, I paid it, now I've just got a speeding ticket from a camera also in Tassie I didn't know about in a hire car, I'll pay that too.
Maybe I just have different morals to some other people.

[b2tf]

Dont know about VIC but in NSW they obviously record everything - including what you say while you're in your car as the HWP wear microphones on their shirts that record conversations. So if its been issued by a HWP unit I would say you are going to pay it one way or another.

[Mr Hardware]

Pro Tip: Do something like this:

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

Pro Tip: Do something like this:

I remember that one. An oldie but a goodie

[tce]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

Pro Tip: Do something like this:

That is a standard form they just change the name and infringement number.
The infringement letter is a legal document and if it is one part not correct it is invalid.

[GT0132]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

Pro Tip: Do something like this:

Good ol Kiwi sense of humour - love it.

For those taking the moral high ground and suggesting the OP own up, pay the fine and not write in to "try" and get it waived - would they be the same people who, if they found a $100 note on the pavement, would hand it into the police as a lost item??

[flappist]

Please God save us from all the do gooders.

I am just wondering if all you pious holier than thou wowsers actually practice what you preach.

If your car breaks traction in the wet or on gravel do you immediately pull over and order a tray truck to take it to the impound yard?
If you notice you have exceeded the speed limit do you write a letter with a cheque enclosed to the transport department?
If you get mud on your windscreen do you defect yourself?

If you are not seen by anyone else is in not illegal?

Or are you just hypocrites and the law only applies to others......

The law is the law and there is due process. The same laws that denote the speed limit and penalties also denote the infraction process and if the process is not followed then that is no different exceeding the limit, it is not lawful.

As a community car enthusiasts do not need to fear the rabid car hating Scrubys of the world for there is far more danger from within...........

As far as morals, the guys who crashed the aircraft into the twins towers, the guards at the various gas chambers and work camps throughout history, the members of the Spanish inquisition, the crusaders of the middle ages etc. all had extremely strong moral values.

They thought they were doing the right thing for a better world.

Others may disagree.....

[SirHenry]

Originally Posted by flappist

Please God save us from all the do gooders.

I am just wondering if all you pious holier than thou wowsers actually practice what you preach.

If your car breaks traction in the wet or on gravel do you immediately pull over and order a tray truck to take it to the impound yard?
If you notice you have exceeded the speed limit do you write a letter with a cheque enclosed to the transport department?
If you get mud on your windscreen do you defect yourself?

If you are not seen by anyone else is in not illegal?

Or are you just hypocrites and the law only applies to others......

The law is the law and there is due process. The same laws that denote the speed limit and penalties also denote the infraction process and if the process is not followed then that is no different exceeding the limit, it is not lawful.

As a community car enthusiasts do not need to fear the rabid car hating Scrubys of the world for there is far more danger from within...........

As far as morals, the guys who crashed the aircraft into the twins towers, the guards at the various gas chambers and work camps throughout history, the members of the Spanish inquisition, the crusaders of the middle ages etc. all had extremely strong moral values.

They thought they were doing the right thing for a better world.

Others may disagree.....

Here here!

If someone was on trial for murder or something I am sure the paperwork would be right. I am sure if the ticket mistake you received had another 0 on the fine amount we would all jump up and down about it and rightly so.

[Revolver]

I think Rusty is in the right.Ok he admitted he did something wrong, but the details were incorrect. When you go to the supermarket, & it scans differently, do you just pay it? or do you inform them of the problem. Usually they're policy is to give you the purchse price in refund, & give you the item for free. Why? Cause they stuffed up.

Prydey, your point is fair enough, but its the principle of the thing. Details were wrong, & in the governments, opinion they may agree with Rusty. Certainly be different if it was all correct. Then its just pay the damn fine! Flappist, right on the mark.

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by flappist

Please God save us from all the do gooders.

I am just wondering if all you pious holier than thou wowsers actually practice what you preach.

If your car breaks traction in the wet or on gravel do you immediately pull over and order a tray truck to take it to the impound yard?
If you notice you have exceeded the speed limit do you write a letter with a cheque enclosed to the transport department?
If you get mud on your windscreen do you defect yourself?

If you are not seen by anyone else is in not illegal?

Or are you just hypocrites and the law only applies to others......

The law is the law and there is due process. The same laws that denote the speed limit and penalties also denote the infraction process and if the process is not followed then that is no different exceeding the limit, it is not lawful.

As a community car enthusiasts do not need to fear the rabid car hating Scrubys of the world for there is far more danger from within...........

As far as morals, the guys who crashed the aircraft into the twins towers, the guards at the various gas chambers and work camps throughout history, the members of the Spanish inquisition, the crusaders of the middle ages etc. all had extremely strong moral values.

They thought they were doing the right thing for a better world.

Others may disagree.....

What a load of rubbish!

For a start, the breaking of traction is why I have traction control. If it was to happen and a cop was to see me, I would cop it on the chin and not give the cop BS.

If I exceed the speed limit, of course I do not pull over, write said letter and enclose the cheque. What I do is answer the cop honestly and pay the fine if I am caught, like any responsible adult.

If I get mud on my windscreen, no need to defect myself, that is why my car was fitted with window washers (which are always in operating order).

If you are not seen, it is still illegal, just like if a tree falls over but no one hears it, it still made a noise.

As for you reference to aircraft into the twin towers, gas chambers etc, relevance? Or did you just bring that in for shock factor. Don't worry mate, it is just another one of your government conspiracies I guess.

People amaze me, they will use any little issue to try and get off when they know they are guilty, but they are first to jump up and down, criticise the system and want to lynch people if someone gets off a more serious charge due to a technicality (which is what this is).

It's all a question of ethics, are you a consequentialist or deontologist? Personally I am a deontologist in my beliefs, you know you broke the law, you admitted it, man up and pay it rather than trying to hide behind the mistake in a system that is over stressed due to workload. It does mean it is ok to break the law as long as it can not be proved you did so or as long as no one was hurt.

One key piece of info that has not yet been disclosed, was it a camera fine or did you get pulled over. If it was a camera fine and you take it to court, don't forget the cops will have a nice happy snap of your car and the magistrate will go to town on you for being smart.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

What a load of rubbish!

For a start, the breaking of traction is why I have traction control. If it was to happen and a cop was to see me, I would cop it on the chin and not give the cop BS.

Some of us dont have cars with T/C. Like my 94 fairlane!

[TadKa]

I had a wrong date on a ticket once. It was definitely me and I was definitely speeding but no way was I paying that fine. It wasn't a big deal they went back to the details set up on the camera that day and all tickets were cancelled.