Victoria's youngest hoon

Franco Cozzo · 14-08-2009, 11:43 PM

Police seize five-year-old girl's mini motorbike

Amelia Harris

August 13, 2009 04:34pm

A FIVE-year-old girl may have become Victoria's youngest hoon after her mini motorbike was seized at the weekend.
Police impounded Laney Frankland’s 49CC bike on Saturday afternoon when she was riding it at a Carrum Downs park.

The family must pay $550 within seven days to get the bike back, but even if they cough up it will not be returned for six months.

If the family does not pay, the bike, which they paid $400 for, will not be returned.

They say they have not yet decided what to do.

Laney’s mother, Tracey Frankland, said her daughter was hysterical when police took the bike.

"She was crying when the police were there,’’ Mrs Frankland said.

"They didn’t give any sympathy. I think they’ve just gone overboard."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...68-661,00.html

and

radio interview

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-gene...0813-ej2v.html

Opinions?

Lukeyson · 14-08-2009, 11:48 PM

so her olds took her to a public park to ride a motorbike ?
or she rode it from home to said park ?

marcusregan · 15-08-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XR8fella

so her olds took her to a public park to ride a motorbike ?
or she rode it from home to said park ?

You'd really have to question a parent who lets his 5yo ride a motor bike on the road, tho this isnt the case here. granted there are better places than a public park to take the kids for a ride but how pathetic is it to confiscate a childrens toy? Ask them to stop and find a more suitable place, problem solved.

Franco Cozzo · 14-08-2009, 11:55 PM

I think her parents took her there to ride her little motorbike there. The radio program has a bit more information.

**Falcon Coupe** · 15-08-2009, 12:21 AM

The full article in the paper stated the police use discression in these matters, one would think the parents attitude when confronted may have influenced the outcome.

**randel** · 15-08-2009, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

The full article in the paper stated the police use discression in these matters, one would think the parents attitude when confronted may have influenced the outcome.

agreed - what would have happened if she ran over some other little kid playin in the park? A bit rough I know, but, thats the rules.

nugget378 · 16-08-2009, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

The full article in the paper stated the police use discression in these matters, one would think the parents attitude when confronted may have influenced the outcome.

Thats the whole issue right there..

I have been in the same situation, and simply packed up and apologised as soon as a neighbor complained, went and found a new spot and all was good.

mcnews · 16-08-2009, 10:09 AM

Perhaps, if it has been reported correctly.... The Victorian press is so pro police and pro government that it might as well be called government and police daily rather than the Herald etc.

RG · 16-08-2009, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnews

Perhaps, if it has been reported correctly.... The Victorian press is so pro police and pro government that it might as well be called government and police daily rather than the Herald etc.

I wouldn't say that all the press is but the Herald Sun definitely is.

Unless of course they smell blood, all allegiances are dropped then.

Brendo_GSUte · 16-08-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugget378

Thats the whole issue right there..

I have been in the same situation, and simply packed up and apologised as soon as a neighbor complained, went and found a new spot and all was good.

Me too. You just have to concider others in society.

I was in a similar situation with my petrol RC car. i simply moved on but my mate who had one too got cheeky and defensive to the cops and consequently got a move on notice then a disturbing the peace fine and IMO lucky not to get more after letting his EGO get in the way of being told what to do by someone who in the end is there for his own good. So it just goes to show how attitude goes along way with people, a skill some never seem to learn!

As for the girl on the bike what if she lost control? Hurt her self? Collided with a pram? Her parents would no doubt sue the council in a heartbeat driving up taxes etc paving the way for new signs and stricter rules on what you can and cant bring to a park ETC.

To draw a comparison, golfing is now banned at parks (in WA anyway) why koz you kicking the footy 100m away form some guy "teeing off" will pretty well hurt you if you are hit also there are proper facilities for golf.

Its a near identical situation to the girl on the bike there are proper facilities for her to go riding and given the police force in Vic i think the 5yr old was lucky not to get shot or tazed.

gtxb67 · 16-08-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brendo_BAXR8

Its a near identical situation to the girl on the bike there are proper facilities for her to go riding and given the police force in Vic i think the 5yr old was lucky not to get shot or tazed.

i have lived in victoria all of my life and have never had a problem with the police. i generally live inside the law though, and when sometimes outside it (speeding for instance), am always polite to them - why, because i broke the law. they are just doing their job - and when being polite, discretion has shown on a number of occasions. and if no discretion was shown - i should not have broken the law in the first place

Franco Cozzo · 16-08-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtxb67

i have lived in victoria all of my life and have never had a problem with the police. i generally live inside the law though, and when sometimes outside it (speeding for instance), am always polite to them - why, because i broke the law. they are just doing their job - and when being polite, discretion has shown on a number of occasions. and if no discretion was shown - i should not have broken the law in the first place

The only time I had anything to do with the police was two days ago, they knocked on my door and said my wallet had turned up at a police station in a town near by. I thought that was pretty nice.

KPOJ · 15-08-2009, 01:58 AM

edit... dont want to get involved

**Burnout** · 15-08-2009, 06:31 AM

The evil little wench!............... Shoot her! :evil3:

The Monty · 15-08-2009, 06:44 AM

HOOOONN!!!
I watched this on ACA ( I know, dont shoot me down). They had the mayor there calling the father irresponsible etc.
Its dumbfounding, I know I learnt to ride my Ex-Racing KX60 when I was 6 in a public park, and noone said anything.
Thats just ridiculous.

**Bundy** · 15-08-2009, 06:51 AM

Hell that'd peeve me of no end having to put up with motor bikes running up and down a park in suburbia, too right the parents are irresponible, damn inconciderate of their fellow neighbours too!!

satria · 15-08-2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bundy

Hell that'd peeve me of no end having to put up with motor bikes running up and down a park in suburbia, too right the parents are irresponible, damn inconciderate of their fellow neighbours too!!

lol!

it's only a pee wee 49cc! it's not exactly as loud as a harley! i've got no issues with kids riding little motorbikes on parks, as long as they are being sensible and not riding closely around other little kids i don't think anyone has a right to tell them not to.

Redmund · 15-08-2009, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satria

lol!

it's only a pee wee 49cc! it's not exactly as loud as a harley! i've got no issues with kids riding little motorbikes on parks, as long as they are being sensible and not riding closely around other little kids i don't think anyone has a right to tell them not to.

He probably hates the sound of a carb fed V8 too. No wonder the country is stuffed. It's full of people like him!

Rodp · 15-08-2009, 06:56 AM

Seems like there's more to the story than is being reported.

I also think it's a bit harsh to put a stipulation of when you must pay or completely forfeit the bike.

If the child was being supervised, not posing any danger to other children and not creating undue noise then I personally don't see a problem.

platinumXR · 15-08-2009, 07:04 AM

I have to concede that regardless of how innocent their motives may seem in the media, I think it is pretty inconsiderate in respect to the noise.

I think if the parent's were genuine they would have found a more suitable location for her to ride to her heart's content and not annoy anyone else in the process.

It is not the girls fault as at that age she can only rely on advice from her parents, therefore she suffers due to their indifference and ignorance.

Ross-b · 16-08-2009, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by platinumXR

I have to concede that regardless of how innocent their motives may seem in the media, I think it is pretty inconsiderate in respect to the noise.

I think if the parent's were genuine they would have found a more suitable location for her to ride to her heart's content and not annoy anyone else in the process.

It is not the girls fault as at that age she can only rely on advice from her parents, therefore she suffers due to their indifference and ignorance.

are u serious? noise. its not the loudest thing you hear around the streets.
and was she driving it at stupid hours

i hate people who complain about noise . i can understand it if it were night time or early morning, but its not hurting anyone.

on topic though

i agree the law is the law. it can be dangerous and blagh blagh

but seriously a warning would have been sufficient. its not like she was riding a 250 like a lunatic weaving in and out of kids flying kites and flicking dirt and gravel up at them

platinumXR · 16-08-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross-b

are u serious? noise. its not the loudest thing you hear around the streets.
and was she driving it at stupid hours

i hate people who complain about noise . i can understand it if it were night time or early morning, but its not hurting anyone.

on topic though

i agree the law is the law. it can be dangerous and blagh blagh

but seriously a warning would have been sufficient. its not like she was riding a 250 like a lunatic weaving in and out of kids flying kites and flicking dirt and gravel up at them

Where does it stop then? Do you let ALL the kid's in the neighbourhood ride their bikes in the park then? Imagine that noise.

And as other's have written here: if the father had not failed the attitude test - then the outcome may have been different.

Ross-b · 16-08-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by platinumXR

Where does it stop then? Do you let ALL the kid's in the neighbourhood ride their bikes in the park then? Imagine that noise.

And as other's have written here: if the father had not failed the attitude test - then the outcome may have been different.

no you dont
thats not acceptable (and not because of the noise levels) but thats not the case here. it was 1 little girl being supervised. get the father on the other offences he supposedly did. dont confiscate someone elses property for something so minor

theyve effectively taken candy from a baby then bragged about it

The Monty · 15-08-2009, 07:01 AM

We have motorbikes riding near us all the time. Its people that whinge and complain about kids having some fun that turn them into kids doing crime and drugs when they arent allowed to ride or have any fun that isnt hurting anyone. PC crew strike again.

mcnews · 15-08-2009, 07:15 AM

She should of course be hung, drawn and quartered. Her evil hoon ways cannot be able to influence any other little kiddies. What is this world coming to.

Ghiadude · 15-08-2009, 07:28 AM

Poor parenting OR bad policing.....Poor kid either way

mcnews · 15-08-2009, 07:34 AM

Yeah poor kid. Parents buy her a slow little motorbike and take her for a putt around the park. Gee, family services should take her in to care...

:

Matty4 · 15-08-2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghiadude

Poor parenting OR bad policing.....Poor kid either way

Poor parenting AND bad policing IMO!!!
If the father did give the cops a mouthful then a polite warning to him just to let him know that if it continues they will then impound the bike may have shut him up and the little girl may still have her bike. Too many police these days are a bit precious about having their feelings hurt unfortunately.

GS608 · 15-08-2009, 07:36 AM

oh come on..its a little 49cc pocket rocket..it's not like it a bloody 250 trailbike

Springfield_Johny · 15-08-2009, 08:03 AM

its a 49cc trailbike today, next year its a 125, the year after that its a 250 with all of her mates. The cops have sent a loud and clear message that its a park, not a motocross circuit. A 6 year old would have very little concept of danger when it came to riding a motorcycle, and whilst the kids parents may have had innocent intentions, imagine if 20 parents had the same innocent intentions? What would happen if another young child received life changing injuries because they were hit by one of these kids on a motorbike.