The real GTS-R for Melborne

[BadMac]

From SMH (its also on drive).

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...788544765.html

HOLDEN'S performance-car division is due to unveil at the Melbourne motor show this morning the fastest, most powerful - and most expensive - Australian-made road car of all time.

It is based on the humble Holden Commodore sedan but thanks to a heart transplant is powered by a massive 7.0-litre V8 from a race-bred version of the Chevrolet Corvette in the United States.

The Holden Special Vehicles super-sedan is likely to cost in excess of $150,000, more than twice the price of the most expensive model currently. It will have the biggest brakes ever fitted to a Holden, will meet the latest vehicle emissions requirements and won't use much more fuel than current Holden V8s.

"Holden and HSV have had record sales of V8s over the past 12 months and we believe there is definitely a market for this car," HSV boss Scott Grant told the Herald.

"Despite the hype around petrol prices, the passion for performance-based cars in Australia is stronger than it's ever been. Buyers have clearly demonstrated this by voting with their wallets and continuing to buy V8s."

The car should be in showrooms in July. HSV will build each car by hand alongside its Holden Racing Team headquarters, but the car will still be covered by the regular Commodore's three-year, 100,000-kilometre warranty.

"This is everything we've learned about V8 Supercar racing and building special road cars, but in one vehicle," said Grant.

HSV claims the car will sprint from rest to 100kmh in a Porsche-quick 4.7 seconds but its top speed will be limited to 250kmh, the same as its German rivals.

To ensure it has sufficient grip to handle the extra power (said to be 370kW, 20 per cent more than the most powerful V8 available in a Holden) HSV is due to fly a test car to a specially made automotive ice rink in Sweden to calibrate the car's stability control system. The idea is that if it can grip well on ice, it will grip even better on tarmac.

[futura]

Congradulations to HSV. Have full respect for a company that wants to move forward and produce high performance Australian production cars (with a little help from corvette to make it possible). Unlike FPV where they are trying to cut savings by using the same wheels package as the older models.

I wonder when FPV will have an answer to this?

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by futura

Congradulations to HSV. Have full respect for a company that wants to move forward and produce high performance Australian production cars (with a little help from corvette to make it possible). Unlike FPV where they are trying to cut savings by using the same wheels package as the older models.

I wonder when FPV will have an answer to this?

Ill agree to that, good on them for doing it. People have been saying someone should build one, will be interesting to watch sales. I couldn't imagine them needing to sell many to atleast break even.

Saying that, it looks like a little fat pig.

I couldn't care less if FPV dont bother with it, just stick to making the current line up successful!

[PETE_XR6]

Ford have announced they are going to build GT's geared towards handling than out right speed . All GT's will be fitted with a 2 litre diesel engine

[aquahead2001]

The one thing that HSV does so well is it gives the Punters something to aspire to. Aspirational cars a lot of good to a brand. Take WRX & STI and what they have done to Subaru. Take four little letters G T H O...

FPV is an aspirational brand to most Ford lovers but HSV know how to pull the right heart strings just that little bit better.

Although most show cars are just that, HSV and Holden know how to play the game at another level that our beloved Ford.

I don't think it would hurt Ford to throw a Ford GT/Mustrang Cobra donk in an FPV and say, "We're done it to guage public reaction..." Then let the public go wild...

Its all about the emotion....

[BAxtER]

congrats to HSV for doing it, i guess we can only hope it inspires ford to do something similar! time will tell.

[Julza]

totally agree with you on this one mate... imho a large factor of a performance car company is perception, from their customers but also from the general public. regardless of how this gts-r looks or its pricing, developing a 'new' model with any mechanical changes requires time and $$$. Even if the model doesn't sell well, there is a certain sense of confidence in the company knowing they have the ability to develop new models with a decent budget. Will definitely be interesting to see this in the metal

Julza

Originally Posted by aquahead2001

The one thing that HSV does so well is it gives the Punters something to aspire to. Aspirational cars a lot of good to a brand. Take WRX & STI and what they have done to Subaru. Take four little letters G T H O...

FPV is an aspirational brand to most Ford lovers but HSV know how to pull the right heart strings just that little bit better.

Although most show cars are just that, HSV and Holden know how to play the game at another level that our beloved Ford.

I don't think it would hurt Ford to throw a Ford GT/Mustrang Cobra donk in an FPV and say, "We're done it to guage public reaction..." Then let the public go wild...

Its all about the emotion....

[HSE2]

It’s called the W427.

370 kws and 640nm.

I have a different price to what the 150k ask in that article says

[HSE2]

Should also mention 6 piston brakes, carbon fibre rear wing, active exhaust system and cleared for a 200 a year run. Its not a limited production run.

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by HSE2

Should also mention 6 piston brakes, carbon fibre rear wing, active exhaust system and cleared for a 200 a year run. Its not a limited production run.

Ah got my wires crossed. They have no plan re numbers as such. Sounds like about 4 a week for the first year but it is essentially a built to order deal. Customers can watch their car being built.

Some impressive engineering in the car. Take the brakes for example. Bringing back six pistons requires new calibration that will not only be expensive to HSV, exclusive also to the one model. Down the track though, development for the next generation of HSVs has effectively been started with this car. The way it should be done.

[mcnews]

Originally Posted by HSE2

Ah got my wires crossed. They have no plan re numbers as such. Sounds like about 4 a week for the first year but it is essentially a built to order deal. Customers can watch their car being built.

Some impressive engineering in the car. Take the brakes for example. Bringing back six pistons requires new calibration that will not only be expensive to HSV, exclusive also to the one model. Down the track though, development for the next generation of HSVs has effectively been started with this car. The way it should be done.

Congrats to HSV for having a good crack.

But most of you should get over how many pistons in brakes.. The M3 was about the best braked vehicle for years with single piston calipers. There are plenty of single piston applications that are light years ahead of the 4 and 6 piston stuff on FPV/HSV.

[FlipXW]

I want 1.

[MITCHAY]

I spose most of the money went into performance stuff then because it doesn't look much on the outside. Awesome anyway!

[sleekism]

Why does it look like a VZ Clubsport?

[MITCHAY]

I might add that they might want to becarefull how they price it. The GT-R will smoke this thing and unless you want a sedan I don't see any other reason why you'd buy the GTS-R

[Elks]

News flash: To counter HSV's new 370kw GTS-R, FPV release new stripe package.!!





PS; I hope I'm wrong..

[XRQTR]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

PMSL

but you forgot about the repositioning of the cup holders for a better performance feel

[GlennBA]

Originally Posted by myts

News flash: To counter HSV's new 370kw GTS-R, FPV release new stripe package.!!





PS; I hope I'm wrong..

That'd be about right too i reckon.

[ED Classic]

Originally Posted by myts

News flash: To counter HSV's new 370kw GTS-R, FPV release new stripe package.!!





PS; I hope I'm wrong..

rofl

[Lightning Strike GT]

Originally Posted by myts

News flash: To counter HSV's new 370kw GTS-R, FPV 1972release new stripe package.!!





PS; I hope I'm wrong..

They will get the white GT stick some green stripes and a picture of a falcon on the rear panel and reinvent the SUPERBIRD of 1972 - it worked for the GT anniversary and the Cobra ones

[ivorya]

Numbers, Numbers, Numbers...... It's all about numbers..... where's the media writing their doom and gloom articles about Auzzie made cars that'll end up in our 18 yrs hands, killing inocent pedestrians as they did with the typhoon!!!!!

To me, i want to look at the car - yep still looks crap!!

When i sit in the drivers seat, i want to like what i see - Looks like someone vomited!!(have a look at drive)

They'll sell it, but who cares!!

[MRJUCY]

Good on HSV for pushing the boundaries. I’m glad it’s fast because it’s appallingly ugly but at least I shouldn’t be looking at it for long.

PS Yes BMW have persevered with single piston calipers when every one else has dumped them but they've also copped a lot of flack for having sub standard brakes & for equipping all their magazine road test cars with competition pads rather then what they actually sell.

[merlin]

I'm not anti-Holden but that thing is disgustingly ugly - if I spent $150K on a car I would want people to know I spent $150K. It looks like a fleet pack Omega with 20" wheels (which are also the ugliest wheels I have ever laid eyes on - they remind me of an Irish lucky charm). Colour is foul too. It would look OK in black but what car dosn't.

For the money you'd have an Audi RS4 or BMW M3 - whats the Holden offer - 2 inches more rear legroom pfft who cares...

[StealthAu]

So it costs $150k to compete with the turbo falcons hey?

[bathurst77]

It does nothing for me.
Lets face it HSVs were alreadya f'n fast car.
This thing slightly is faster, more plasticy looking and that red interior! Totally lacking in taste.
Fast holden and fords were about affordable performance cars.
This thing is in the Porsche etc price range. For that money I dont want a "holden Commodore" or "ford Falcon" like the sales rep or taxi driver has.
And i DO want a tasteful interior and exterior.

IF thats holdens Mebourne motor show stealer, they failed.
Ford has all new car to show off, Holden has slightly different plastic and new engine.
Im not gunna stand for ages looking at a bonnet coz theres an engine hidden in it.

[Boosh Brus]

Hopefully it will depreciate badly and I will able to afford one in a couple of years.
If I wanted a Holden/HSV and had $150k Id rather go on holidays for 3 months then supercharge a Clubsport.

[brodfloyd]

What is it with the whole Animal Face thing going on????
first it was the FPV "racoon" eyes, now HSV?!?

Folks i present to you the bloody fast and brilliantly engineered HSV W(what the hell does the W stand for???) 427


or as i like to call it, the HSV "walrus" 427 maybe??? Thats what the W stands for, IM SURE! what else automotive does W stand for???


or if you prefer, maybe the HSV "Pig Nose" 427 ???



Note, not to be confused with HRT's "Big Nose"

Stunningly quick car, But on par with AU forte in the looks department.

and i say again, what does W stand for???
some common performance car letters
GT stands for Gran turismo or Grant Tourer (GT/GTS/GTSR
R stands for Racing (R/Spec R8
P stands for performance GTP ESP
HO stands handling options/high output GTHO

W stands for wishbone/watts linkage/W16???? WALRUS, walrus it is.

if it stands for walkinshaw i think i'll vomit. bloody sycophants. it should be the HSV GMPBR427 (General Motors Parts Bin Raid) or BDM427 (bogan death machine)

[Steve]

Originally Posted by brodfloyd

What is it with the whole Animal Face thing going on????
first it was the FPV "racoon" eyes, now HSV have to get in on the action!!!

Folks i present to you the HSV W(what the hell does the W stand for???) 427


or as i like to call it, the HSV "walrus" Mouth maybe??? Thats what the W stands for, IM SURE! what else automotive does W stand for???


or if you prefer, the HSV "Pig Nose" ???



Note, not to be confused with HRT's "Big Nose"

Stunningly quick car, But on par with AU forte in the looks department.

and i say again, what does W stand for???
some common performance car letters
GT stands for Gran turismo or Grant Tourer (GT/GTS/GTSR
R stands for Racing (R/Spec R8
P stands for performance GTP ESP
HO stands handling options/high output GTHO

W stands for wishbone/watts linkage/W16???? WALRUS, walrus it is.

if it stands for walkinshaw i think i'll vomit. bloody sycophants. it should be the HSV GMPBR427 (General Motors Parts Bin Raid) or BDM427 (bogan death machine)

Oh my God!!! It's the HSV Zoidberg!

[Dezza]

Originally Posted by Steve

Oh my God!!! It's the HSV Zoidberg!

Hooray!


Now when do I get my free meal?

[ivorya]

Originally Posted by brodfloyd

What is it with the whole Animal Face thing going on????
first it was the FPV "racoon" eyes, now HSV?!?

Folks i present to you the bloody fast and brilliantly engineered HSV W(what the hell does the W stand for???) 427


or as i like to call it, the HSV "walrus" 427 maybe??? Thats what the W stands for, IM SURE! what else automotive does W stand for???


or if you prefer, maybe the HSV "Pig Nose" 427 ???



Note, not to be confused with HRT's "Big Nose"

Stunningly quick car, But on par with AU forte in the looks department.

and i say again, what does W stand for???
some common performance car letters
GT stands for Gran turismo or Grant Tourer (GT/GTS/GTSR
R stands for Racing (R/Spec R8
P stands for performance GTP ESP
HO stands handling options/high output GTHO

W stands for wishbone/watts linkage/W16???? WALRUS, walrus it is.

if it stands for walkinshaw i think i'll vomit. bloody sycophants. it should be the HSV GMPBR427 (General Motors Parts Bin Raid) or BDM427 (bogan death machine)

Where's the quote of the day Award!!!!!!!!!!

Absolute GOLD