queensland ban on turbos....?????

Turboconvert · 16-05-2007, 07:00 PM

hey guys i heard at work today, that as of the end of june, puting a turbo on a car that does not have a turbo modal as such (like the au and e series falcons does not have a turbo model like the ba does) will not be considered street legal. (this is in queensland). i am under the impression that because the ba/bfs have a turbo model (ie xr6t) u can put an aftermarket turbo on an xt, but because other falcons did not have a turbo come as standard such as the au, they would not be considered street legal if the turbo was put on the car after june. i want to know if anyone else has heard this or if they know anything more....cause if this is true, my plans of adding a turbo to my au in a few years will cease to exist and i will be extreamly annoyed. sirfice to say I feel the need to kill peter beatie and his crew of extremely annoying minions

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(sorry if the infomation i put into this thread is a little vague but this is all i know at the moment)

nugget378 · 16-05-2007, 07:09 PM

So your saying no more pshhht in queensland?

jo_king_ef · 16-05-2007, 07:14 PM

nah no more ahtermarket pshhht in queensland lol

sexr6tasy · 16-05-2007, 07:14 PM

Supercharge it problem solved

Pedro · 16-05-2007, 07:24 PM

pshhht to that, I say

herbs · 16-05-2007, 08:05 PM

I wonder if it would also cover putting a turbo on a diesel fourby. If so,

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**Polyal** · 16-05-2007, 08:09 PM

What I think he is getting at is the blue mod plate, or whatever it is.

TheSneakiness · 16-05-2007, 08:14 PM

Better get my **** into gear... :S

Racecraft · 16-05-2007, 08:15 PM

I'd actually heard the same thing but supercharging was to be affected too.. Ie: unless you have a factory supercharged car (ie 1% of cars on the road) aftermarket ones will not be engineered..

flappist · 16-05-2007, 09:14 PM

That will be interesting, I wonder what Toyota will say when their aftermarket fitted supercharged TRD is banned in QLD because it was fitted by Prodrive?
Or the Walkinshaw HSVs?

Premier Pete, regardless or his belief is his holy status as God Emporer of QLD had to comply with federal law and if it complies with ADRs there is NOTHING he can do about it.

matt-chops · 16-05-2007, 10:16 PM

You know what... its not so much the polys I blame for all these bullshit laws and what not... Its the douchebags that drive around in their modded out POS, poser boy ***** extensions, breaking laws, and being a general nuisance. What's wrong with taking your car to a track day instead of driving like a moron in traffic. If that didn't happen, these ridiculos laws wouldn't happen. ARGHH! IDIOTS!

Matty4 · 17-05-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Premier Pete, regardless or his belief is his holy status as God Emporer of QLD had to comply with federal law and if it complies with ADRs there is NOTHING he can do about it.

Ha.... try telling that to this guvmint down here in Bracktoria.
ADR's state a cars speedo can have a built in tolerance of +/-10%, IIRC, yet we can get fined for travelling at a speed that is indicated to be within that 10% window allowed by the ADR's.
Something tells me that this law will be introduced, irrespective of what the ADR's state.

Unco · 16-05-2007, 11:16 PM

i just spoke to a friend that works at Queensland Transport. she said that the new laws coming in only affect drivers under 25. basically anyone under 25 will not be allowed to drive a turbocharged vehicle, period. nothing to do with modifying a car that didn't come with a turbo as an option.

LUXO_8 · 16-05-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unco

i just spoke to a friend that works at Queensland Transport. she said that the new laws coming in only affect drivers under 25. basically anyone under 25 will not be allowed to drive a turbocharged vehicle, period. nothing to do with modifying a car that didn't come with a turbo as an option.

if thats the case, then its not such a bad thing!

dredd_xr6 · 18-05-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Unco

i just spoke to a friend that works at Queensland Transport. she said that the new laws coming in only affect drivers under 25. basically anyone under 25 will not be allowed to drive a turbocharged vehicle, period. nothing to do with modifying a car that didn't come with a turbo as an option.

what happens in the case of a turbo diesel hilux for example?

Unco · 16-05-2007, 11:24 PM

yep, they have just been undergoing training about all these new laws coming in and she said there was nothing about modifying vehicles. obviously this would now only apply to 25+ drivers.

the main focus is on the inexperienced drivers killing themselves in high performance cars, so they're trying to do something about it.

apparently you will be able to learn to drive in a turbocharged vehicle if that is the only family car in the household and you can turn up to the driving test in it, but you will not be able to drive away in the same car once you pass your driving test, if you're under 25.

makes me smile

Wally · 17-05-2007, 07:54 AM

Isn't it under 25's = no huffers, no hairdryers and no V8's ?

Good idea in my book.

TheSneakiness · 17-05-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Unco

apparently you will be able to learn to drive in a turbocharged vehicle if that is the only family car in the household and you can turn up to the driving test in it, but you will not be able to drive away in the same car once you pass your driving test, if you're under 25.

PMSL...

What's the use of that?

Unco · 17-05-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Axe

PMSL...

What's the use of that?

well, i guess kids are less likely to do stupid stuff on their L's with a more experienced driver in the passenger seat than they are if they were in a car by themselves on their P's

King Nothing · 17-05-2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Unco

the main focus is on the inexperienced drivers killing themselves in high performance cars, so they're trying to do something about it.

Pfft. Just like the NSW plan to cut P-plate deaths by stopping them driving high powered cars. That worked, didn't it?

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Any car is capable of driving at dangerously high speeds in different situations. Take them out of a v8 falcon/commodore, they will do the same damn thing in an excel. Only I know which car I'd rather have an accident in.

The politician who has the guts to get serious about proper driver education, and not driver restrictions, will get my respect. And don't tell me that they have done that by upping the hours for a learner, thats a cheap copout. If they really want to save these kids lives, get them to attend a driver training course.

Thank Christ I got my licence before those laws came in.

Tiapan · 17-05-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by King Nothing

Pfft. Just like the NSW plan to cut P-plate deaths by stopping them driving high powered cars. That worked, didn't it?

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Any car is capable of driving at dangerously high speeds in different situations. Take them out of a v8 falcon/commodore, they will do the same damn thing in an excel. Only I know which car I'd rather have an accident in.

The politician who has the guts to get serious about proper driver education, and not driver restrictions, will get my respect. And don't tell me that they have done that by upping the hours for a learner, thats a cheap copout. If they really want to save these kids lives, get them to attend a driver training course.

Thank Christ I got my licence before those laws came in.

I'll second that! we need a car UNION!!! only a strike wouldnt be very effective :(

GTpilot · 18-05-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by King Nothing

Pfft. Just like the NSW plan to cut P-plate deaths by stopping them driving high powered cars. That worked, didn't it?

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Any car is capable of driving at dangerously high speeds in different situations. Take them out of a v8 falcon/commodore, they will do the same damn thing in an excel. Only I know which car I'd rather have an accident in.

The politician who has the guts to get serious about proper driver education, and not driver restrictions, will get my respect. And don't tell me that they have done that by upping the hours for a learner, thats a cheap copout. If they really want to save these kids lives, get them to attend a driver training course.

Thank Christ I got my licence before those laws came in.

Mate, whilst I agree with you on the fact that any car is capable of dangerously high speeps. Here is something to ponder.

Last week one of the young guys here at work had an accident. He was driving his turbo powered nissan and "in his words" coming out of a roundabout as he accellerated the pedal stuck to the floor. the result, both he and his mate landed themselves in hospital for 3 days. His car is wrecked. First thing I asked him was "isn't the car a manual" "Yep" he said. . "then why didn't you just push the clutch in"...."Didn't think of that" he replied "wouldn't that have blown my engine??? anyway, I was busy tring to brake (which did nothing with the pedal of a high powered car to the floor) an avoid the tree" Which he hit a high speed anyway. "But wouldn't htat have blown my engine??" he asked, It's rev limited isn't it, ooh yeah he said.

He says he would have been doing 80-90 when he hit. NOW. IF he was driving a lower powered car his impact would have been close to half the speed, If there was any resultant impact at all, and quite possible he and his mate would have walked away with a few brusies.

My point....... His accident was due to him driving a high powered car having quick accelleration, He is NOT an experienced enough to think clearly and act properly in the situation he was in, at high speed things happen much faster and have much worse consequenses. you need to think quicker and young inexperienced drivers DO NOT have this kind of ability.

Ridin-High · 17-05-2007, 08:46 AM

If that law came into effect in NSW i think i would die, ive been waiting 2yrs and one more year 2 go to drive a god dam v8

LUXO_8 · 17-05-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridin-High

If that law came into effect in NSW i think i would die, ive been waiting 2yrs and one more year 2 go to drive a god dam v8

1 more year of experience out on the roads really wouldnt hurt you.....
then you can drive all the V8's you want......been there done that, but its not till you get to your mid 20's that you realise, damn, if i'd done half the stuff i did back then with a V8/Turbo/whatever, i wouldnt be here.

your V8 time will come

Unco · 17-05-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MADNC_8

......been there done that, but its not till you get to your mid 20's that you realise, damn, if i'd done half the stuff i did back then with a V8/Turbo/whatever, i wouldnt be here.

your V8 time will come

so true. my first car was a 6cyl XC. i used to get annoyed at how gutless it was. looking back now it was probably a good thing.