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Old 15-05-2007, 08:31 PM   #1
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BP at the end of my street: regular ULP: 125 c/L
Ultimate: 145 c/L

Normally the margin is more like 10-12 cents per L, NOT 20!
What's going on?

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Old 15-05-2007, 08:41 PM   #2
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BP at the end of my street: regular ULP: 125 c/L
Ultimate: 145 c/L

Normally the margin is more like 10-12 cents per L, NOT 20!
What's going on?
At least I'm not the only one now : We have the same problem here so I went in and asked and was told "Ultimate is always a bit more expensive". Told him that he can shove his Ultimate and that a bit more is 10cpl more not 20. Might give BP head office a call one day and query it with them.
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Are you sure they weren’t going through the weekly price adjustment, perhaps they had moved PULP up the usual 10-12 cents but hadn't moved Regular as yet.
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Are you sure they weren’t going through the weekly price adjustment, perhaps they had moved PULP up the usual 10-12 cents but hadn't moved Regular as yet.
100% sure here. We don't have a weekly discount cycle.
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maybe fuel companies are planning on paying some of their debt off and need more profits???

what a joke...fuel crisis my a**

anyways yeah PULP (ultimate) usually stays around 10cpl more

@ paulie... them not moving the regular price up yet is bad... im sure any increase wouldnt take more than 4 secs, decreases however years before its changed
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yes same senario in bendigo we have to use ultimate in some boats we run i also queried it the lady said thats that if you dont wanna pay that much dont fill up
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I just filled up with LPG for 51.9, Could have got it for 50.9 If I had waited until I got to the next servo 1km down the road. Ripped off...kicking myself. That's 64 cents I'll never see again.

LPG has had a bit of a spike lately. Last week was the first time I'd paid more than 48.9 in months.
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I just filled up with LPG for 51.9, Could have got it for 50.9 If I had waited until I got to the next servo 1km down the road. Ripped off...kicking myself. That's 64 cents I'll never see again.

LPG has had a bit of a spike lately. Last week was the first time I'd paid more than 48.9 in months.

Yeah, nice one DirtyHarry.
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What I find strange, is that Ultimate burns cleaner, right?
The govt wants us to drive cleaner cars, and save the environment.
So why the hell don't they subsidize Ultimate fuel, so it will encourage us to use it, and thus result in a cleaner air?
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What I find strange, is that Ultimate burns cleaner, right?
The govt wants us to drive cleaner cars, and save the environment.
So why the hell don't they subsidize Ultimate fuel, so it will encourage us to use it, and thus result in a cleaner air?
*pompous bureaucrat voice* Don't be silly!! subsidize Ultimate fuel??, save the enviroment?? BAH HUMBUG! buy a Prius if you want to save the enviroment
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What I find strange, is that Ultimate burns cleaner, right?
The govt wants us to drive cleaner cars, and save the environment.
So why the hell don't they subsidize Ultimate fuel, so it will encourage us to use it, and thus result in a cleaner air?
And maybe the Government should subsidise bigscreens LCDs for everyone, they use less power right? The Gov wants us to save power, and save the environment, so why the hell dont they subsidise them?
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And maybe the Government should subsidise bigscreens LCDs for everyone, they use less power right? The Gov wants us to save power, and save the environment, so why the hell dont they subsidise them?
They already do! Haven't you heard of the 'baby bonus'?
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Old 15-05-2007, 09:20 PM   #13
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When i worked in a servo it was fairly common to have a higher price marked on the board but at the pump it was lower (never the other way around though), so possibly at the pump it was cheaper and the board hadn't been changed.
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When i worked in a servo it was fairly common to have a higher price marked on the board but at the pump it was lower (never the other way around though), so possibly at the pump it was cheaper and the board hadn't been changed.
Ever seen a price board with the price of Ultimate on it? I haven't. It would seem that BP is trying to screw regional folk.
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When i worked in a servo it was fairly common to have a higher price marked on the board but at the pump it was lower (never the other way around though), so possibly at the pump it was cheaper and the board hadn't been changed.
Nope, they don't even have the price of Ultimate up on the board. It only showed up on the pump when I started to fill, I had already put my Valvesaver additive in by that time so was more or less committed to filling up. Filled up my other car at the Woolworths Caltex just before and I could have got Vortex 98 for $1.30 with voucher, but I only had one. Ultimate is a better fuel but getting a bit rediculous the price of it. I queried the young guy behind the counter and he said he would mention it to his boss, that's all he could do.
PS to Harry, I used to buy my LPG for 18 cents per litre back in the day. When my XC stopped being my daily I pulled the gas out and had the engine bay painted etc. in 2003. PULP was about 90c/L then I think.
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Old 15-05-2007, 10:59 PM   #16
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I filled up on Ultimate @ 1.35 c p/l and normal ULP was 1.25.
It is always no more than 10c more for Ultimate at all the BP's I ever been too.
Mobile on the otherhand always seems to be 12c more for the Synergy 8000
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I put up a post a little while ago suggesting we boycott a certain brand of petrol
(Boycott Petrol).
If we all did it and went to another brand they will start to hurt and lower their prices.
We need to take it to these robbing dogs and show them we're fed up with being ripped off.
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got $20 of ultimate at my local BP last week (Cnr of burwood hwy and Ferntree gully rd.). pump showed 14.33ltr delivered. thought it was wrong so I got a reciept. added it up and by my calc should have been 15.03l. went back that evening to confront them and they denied it being wrong. ******** console op said whats it matter anyway if it is wrong, " it's only 700ml". then proceeded to serve the next customer. blah blah, anyway went in the next day and asked for the manager, he was not in and I asked when . the guy there did not know. I told him about it and whilst he more helpful and a "little" nicer about it, said he could not do anything, took my number and told me they would call. Still have not heard from them. If I have not heard by the end of the week I'll contact the ACCC and see what they have to say about it. In future I'll be checking this , suggest you all do too. I won't be going there again either way.
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got $20 of ultimate at my local BP last week (Cnr of burwood hwy and Ferntree gully rd.). pump showed 14.33ltr delivered. thought it was wrong so I got a reciept. added it up and by my calc should have been 15.03l. went back that evening to confront them and they denied it being wrong. ******** console op said whats it matter anyway if it is wrong, " it's only 700ml". then proceeded to serve the next customer. blah blah, anyway went in the next day and asked for the manager, he was not in and I asked when . the guy there did not know. I told him about it and whilst he more helpful and a "little" nicer about it, said he could not do anything, took my number and told me they would call. Still have not heard from them. If I have not heard by the end of the week I'll contact the ACCC and see what they have to say about it. In future I'll be checking this , suggest you all do too. I won't be going there again either way.
Hey I know some of us hate those current affair programs, but if you get onto one of them they will probably jump at the idea and its a sure fire way of making the servo listen! Better than relying on the most likely slow actions of the company or ACCC.

I use shell V-Power by the way, and last i checked it was 131/L and that was 10c above regular UL.
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got $20 of ultimate at my local BP last week (Cnr of burwood hwy and Ferntree gully rd.). pump showed 14.33ltr delivered. thought it was wrong so I got a reciept. added it up and by my calc should have been 15.03l. went back that evening to confront them and they denied it being wrong. ******** console op said whats it matter anyway if it is wrong, " it's only 700ml". then proceeded to serve the next customer. blah blah, anyway went in the next day and asked for the manager, he was not in and I asked when . the guy there did not know. I told him about it and whilst he more helpful and a "little" nicer about it, said he could not do anything, took my number and told me they would call. Still have not heard from them. If I have not heard by the end of the week I'll contact the ACCC and see what they have to say about it. In future I'll be checking this , suggest you all do too. I won't be going there again either way.
Have a look on the Gov websites for 'weights and measures' and get in touch with them. They take this stuff very seriously. Also go back and get the brand of the pump and give the manufacturer a call also.
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yep BP are shady if you ask me and I try to avoid them like the plague. I once put 10L of ultimate in my jerry can out of curiosity to see if actually measured 10L and sure enough it showed just over 9L in the jerry can. Aha I thought, so I confronted the cashier operator and he gave me a number to call..public relations or something along those lines at the head office. When I called, the guy was an absolute tool,..he informed me that my jerry can was incorrect and that the pump was calibrated correctly..LOL yeah right,...he wasnt at all interested in taking it any further !!! :togo:
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I filled up with Shell V-Power (98) the other day it was 10c more than there ULP. Shell 95 was 6c more.
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Ulimate used to be an option for most now it's a necessity, servo's are making money off this.
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It's funny how on the way to work (Morwell to Sale) all the major petrol stations I pass are at 137.9, except one, an independent, who is on 129.9 (and up until this week they were on 125.9 for weeks)

If a smalltime independent in a sleepy town can afford 8c/l less, surely the larger franchises can, especially since one of them is just 50m down the road from this independent station.

Should we have some kind of petrol watch thread that's updated daily (one post a day, by a mod, admin, or a dedicated researcher - NOT to be filled up with a heap of posts by the readers) comparing the typical capital cities average prices for LPG, ULP, premiums, diesel, as well as the aussie dollar vs US dollar, and the price for a barrel of oil? I'm sure some interesting correllations would emerge from the data, like the sharp rise in petrol prices when barrels of oil become more expensive, then the looooong lag in petrol prices after a barrel of oil becomes cheaper. I know that the Herald Sun has those "don't fill up above xxx c/L" snippets, and that the RACV has a fuel watch link somewhere on their site, but I'm not sure about a site with the above combination.
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So if you had a 60 litre tank and filled up at $1.25 it would cost $75, if you filled up at $1.45 it would cost $87, **** $12,big deal....
If petrol prices bother you buy a car that is economical.
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So if you had a 60 litre tank and filled up at $1.25 it would cost $75, if you filled up at $1.45 it would cost $87, **** $12, big deal
It is a big deal if you do a lot of miles, in a trade car. Filling up a tank 2 or 3 times a week, at that price difference is almost $40 a week extra.

The point wasn't that you'd be paying extra, it was *how much* extra...
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So if you had a 60 litre tank and filled up at $1.25 it would cost $75, if you filled up at $1.45 it would cost $87, **** $12,big deal....
If petrol prices bother you buy a car that is economical.

So if that was your weekly fill $12x 52=$624 per annum, YES IT IS A BIG DEAL, not all people have can be so blazae with money, so the the lower end of town have to miss out on their hobbies and passions. The gap just keeps getting bigger between "the common person" and the top end of town.

Off the topic now but I heard on the radio that the head huncho of the Mcquarrie bank gets $33 million pa, thats $4000 (yes thousand) per hour, then poor old bank teller gets laid off because corprate big wigs want to cut cost to keep shareholders happy.

So to the quoted coment I say be a bit more considerate to other peoples position in life. The haves and the have nots.

Sorry if I've taken it the wrong way but when I read that it got to me. :
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So if that was your weekly fill $12x 52=$624 per annum, YES IT IS A BIG DEAL, not all people have can be so blazae with money, so the the lower end of town have to miss out on their hobbies and passions. The gap just keeps getting bigger between "the common person" and the top end of town.

Off the topic now but I heard on the radio that the head huncho of the Mcquarrie bank gets $33 million pa, thats $4000 (yes thousand) per hour, then poor old bank teller gets laid off because corprate big wigs want to cut cost to keep shareholders happy.

So to the quoted coment I say be a bit more considerate to other peoples position in life. The haves and the have nots.

Sorry if I've taken it the wrong way but when I read that it got to me. :
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So if that was your weekly fill $12x 52=$624 per annum, YES IT IS A BIG DEAL, not all people have can be so blazae with money, so the the lower end of town have to miss out on their hobbies and passions. The gap just keeps getting bigger between "the common person" and the top end of town.

Off the topic now but I heard on the radio that the head huncho of the Mcquarrie bank gets $33 million pa, thats $4000 (yes thousand) per hour, then poor old bank teller gets laid off because corprate big wigs want to cut cost to keep shareholders happy.

So to the quoted coment I say be a bit more considerate to other peoples position in life. The haves and the have nots.

Sorry if I've taken it the wrong way but when I read that it got to me. :
Yeah fair enough mate, I agree with everything you have said, but being a blue collar worker i dont realy consider myself as the top end of town,I just think alot of people arnt that wise with there money,like the bloke who said he would spend the extra $12 on smokes, now thats clever........
I wouldnt own a big 6 or 8 if i was worried i didnt have the money to run it.
And that ***** getin 33 million a year is disgusting,but when big business rules the roost which it does in this country we are gona see this trend continue and probably get worse,meanwhile your average joe can barely afford to buy a house on two average wage incomes.
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So if you had a 60 litre tank and filled up at $1.25 it would cost $75, if you filled up at $1.45 it would cost $87, **** $12,big deal....
If petrol prices bother you buy a car that is economical.
I would rather the $75.00 with the free packet of smokes!!!!
On a more serious note ....... that is a bloody big deal! Do that 6 times a month and I am sure you wouldnt mind an extra $70.00! If a servo offered "Every 7th tank full free" ........ you wouldnt bother?



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