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14-07-2016, 09:57 PM | #1 | ||
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On all the news outlets trying to get the Focus RS 'Drift Mode' banned, citing death toll. All the mainstream media and Brian Owler etc have jumped on it. FFS- how does the death toll (predominently intoxication, fatigue, distracted etc) have anything to do with this 'Drift Mode'?
I was going to ask why make obviously misleading claims linking the drift mode to the death toll, but I already know the answer. Because the media jumps on it and gives it momentum, makes him feel important, so he can go home and brag to his wife before donning 10-layers of rubber. Here's a fact: Most new cars on sale today have switchable stability control, meaning the driver can press a button to take away their safety net, allow them to lose grip and cause an accident but where are you on that one mate? |
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14-07-2016, 11:58 PM | #3 | ||
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I honestly despise people like Scrubby (and the Greens, etc)
They are nothing but malcontents who think they have some God given right to tell everyone else how to think and how to live our lives. Now personally, I think "drifting" is for bogans who haven't figured out how to drop a burnout, but each to their own. No doubt many "Drifters" would find my chosen pastimes dull & boring. |
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15-07-2016, 07:40 PM | #5 | ||
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Driven stupid enough anyone can drift any old 500 dollar clunker into a group of people and cause death whether or not it has some form of evil drift mode or not. These guys have to get over this RS as soon as possible...
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15-07-2016, 08:27 PM | #6 | ||
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...and people thinking a magic button will turn them into a Keiichi Tsuchiya in an instant is going to be in for a nasty wake up call. Burnouts are usually done at fairly slow sleeds...drifting is done in corners at higher speeds. As you said, any idiot can do a burnout, and usually not much comes of it. However if people start trying to drift...
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15-07-2016, 12:03 AM | #7 | ||
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I've only read Dowlings article and it wouldn't surprise if it was the first. Always up for the sensational to increase his e-circulation
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15-07-2016, 01:31 AM | #8 | |||
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15-07-2016, 12:11 AM | #9 | ||
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That toss pot needs a one way ticket to Mars, where he'll never see a car again, and where we'll never hear his name mentioned again
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15-07-2016, 12:26 AM | #10 | ||
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Will somebody think of the children!
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18-07-2016, 10:58 AM | #11 | ||
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15-07-2016, 12:34 AM | #12 | ||
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We should gearbox him. Anyone know where he lives?
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18-07-2016, 01:10 AM | #14 | ||
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Awesome. When im back living in Sydney next year ill drop him a shagged BTR. I will take donations
No surprise being Mosman.
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18-07-2016, 09:44 AM | #15 | ||
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I bet a full boxed set of Fast & Furious DVD's should do the trick to make Mr Screwball pull his hair out if he has any. Or who knows? Maybe he is actually a closet racing fanatic, who is bitter at the world because he couldn't drive to save his own life (much like a homo/pedo priest scenario).
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15-07-2016, 05:09 AM | #16 | ||
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Ford must be loving this, awesome free advertising for the Focus RS!
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15-07-2016, 09:14 AM | #17 | ||
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Well they got rid of the line lock feature on the mustang so who knows. Ford could probably have been a bit smarter with this and called it track mode or competion mode or something like this. it's all in the wording for these simple tree hugging,Camry driving, cardigan wearing ,only rooting for making kids type of idiots.
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15-07-2016, 09:34 AM | #18 | ||
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The guy must lead a very very sad life indeed.
Typically with people of late getting all upset about anything and everything; they only know of a small part of it, i.e. Drift Mode, not knowing how it works, the process to engage it, etc. Just that it is there. If these people would instead go and sample it I'd believe their opinion on it might be less vocal. The other problem with the argument is the so called road statistics. They cover everything, pedestrians, cyclists and vehicles and no matter the scenario. So to just generalise and reference them in a baseless argument without quoting exact stats i.e. pedestrian deaths caused by out of control cars driven in a dangerous manner, is just not worth the effort.
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15-07-2016, 07:52 PM | #19 | |||
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15-07-2016, 10:34 AM | #20 | ||
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Track mode should therefore be banned on all cars Harold. Makes the suspension too stiff (might give you hemorrhoids), the steering overly heavy (might break grandmas arms), the accelerator too touchy (you might get 100 when you meant 60), and is generally a safety nightmare if switched on on a public road which is where we'll all use it because we are all as dumb as you think we are.
Scruby, go get HSV with their over torqued (clearly designed for burnouts) LSA and this horrendous track mode thing. (maybe he has, but nobody listened to protect the Lion which does no wrong) Should've hidden Drift in the settings menu like everyone else perhaps
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15-07-2016, 03:11 PM | #21 | ||
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On a nicer note, I happened by chance upon a show about the design and building of the RS last night on Foxtel.
Keep an eye on the new BE-IN (sp?) sports channel. Foxtel being Foxtel it will be replayed 1000 times. As for Scruby, nuff said already.
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15-07-2016, 04:15 PM | #22 | ||
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15-07-2016, 04:18 PM | #25 | ||
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PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
...obviously Scruby, 7 News, News.com.au and all the other hysterical morons don't realise you can also turn off traction and stability control on 99% of cars on the road. Ford should tell them all to get stuffed. |
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15-07-2016, 04:39 PM | #26 | ||
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Drift mode??? Regardless if you can turn it off !!! What the F were they thinking.. Just catering to the Hoon element.. Seriously stupid.
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15-07-2016, 04:45 PM | #27 | ||
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15-07-2016, 05:14 PM | #28 | ||
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16-07-2016, 12:06 AM | #29 | ||
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16-07-2016, 07:23 AM | #30 | |||
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The Focus is going to be an expensive little car...out of the reach of "young irresponsible hoons". It's like when people complained bitterly about the 400kph Veyron possibly being available in Australia (turns out it isn't even built in RHD). One was indeed sold to a "mystery Australian buyer", but he can't even drive it on public roads...and even if they were available in government-nanny-state-approved RHD, what "young hoon" has a couple of million bucks to buy one? There are similar complaints about Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, etc. Of course, the Veyron is an extreme example, but with the Focus and other similar high performance cars and complaints that hoons will misuse them and start wrapping them around trees, light posts, pedestrians, etc, all bets are off when you get a few years down the track and they start becoming available on the second hand market.... The main point of contention with this drift button is that traction control actually does have a sound reason behind being able to switch it off...in some road conditions traction control can actually be a hindrance. For instance, we drive new Pajero's at work, and the traction control in them is downright dangerous at times. You do a u-turn or turn out from the side of the road on dirt, and if the wheels slip even slightly, the traction control slaps you and engine power is reduced by maybe half, with a little light flashing on the dash as you creep across the road saying "Come on come on COME ON" as traffic approaches. A drift button however is purely and entirely to break the law...full stop. Anyone who claims they'll be used "only on the track" is just plain lying. Where are all these road race and drift circuits spread around ever town and city in the country? It's just marketing ****, nothing more, and potentially dangerous **** at that. Last edited by 2011G6E; 16-07-2016 at 07:30 AM. |
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