Which Bathurst was this?

[supershifty]

Hey all, I'm trying to find on Youtube (or anywhere) the race where it was a mongrel day for weather going from rain to shine and back - think it was in the 90's. The rain bucketed down towards the end and there was a massive pile up with the leaders, knocking them out of contention. I think a Skyline won the day and the fans were not happy - they booed the winners on the podium, and the winners arced up and fired back that the crowd were all a pack of assholes.

Year of race would be a great help, also any pointers where I can get it off the net or on DVD.

Cheers!

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by supershifty

Hey all, I'm trying to find on Youtube (or anywhere) the race where it was a mongrel day for weather going from rain to shine and back - think it was in the 90's. The rain bucketed down towards the end and there was a massive pile up with the leaders, knocking them out of contention. I think a Skyline won the day and the fans were not happy - they booed the winners on the podium, and the winners arced up and fired back that the crowd were all a pack of assholes.

Year of race would be a great help, also any pointers where I can get it off the net or on DVD.

Cheers!

Bathurst 92' Gentleman Jim Richards with a very young looking Mark Skaife.
"I'm just really stunned for words, I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more to go than this, this is bloody disgraceful. I'll keep racing but I tell you what this is going to remain with me for a long time. You're a pack of *********."
One of the most memorable moments of Bathurst.

[Moby Vic]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Bathurst 92' Gentleman Jim Richards with a very young looking Mark Skaife.
"I'm just really stunned for words, I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more to go than this, this is bloody disgraceful. I'll keep racing but I tell you what this is going to remain with me for a long time. You're a pack of *********."
One of the most memorable moments of Bathurst.

At Bathurst 2012 they showed an interview with Richards, and he referred to that as "My public speaking debut" with a sly smile.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Moby Vic

At Bathurst 2012 they showed an interview with Richards, and he referred to that as "My public speaking debut" with a sly smile.

He certainly got the audiences attention, and made a few headlines.

[SLO AU XR8]

1992, won by Richards and Skaife

[zipping]

92 was there Jim Richards "your a pack of *********...this will stay with me a long time....thought Australian fans were better than this"

[castellan]

Originally Posted by supershifty

Hey all, I'm trying to find on Youtube (or anywhere) the race where it was a mongrel day for weather going from rain to shine and back - think it was in the 90's. The rain bucketed down towards the end and there was a massive pile up with the leaders, knocking them out of contention. I think a Skyline won the day and the fans were not happy - they booed the winners on the podium, and the winners arced up and fired back that the crowd were all a pack of assholes.

Year of race would be a great help, also any pointers where I can get it off the net or on DVD.

Cheers!

I was one of the ones who booed and would of wanted to punch him out !
I was not right at all, they should of kept racing big deal the fool lost it in the rain.
Ya don't think the crowed went off for no reason, do ya. they were the real fans !

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by castellan

I was one of the ones who booed and would of wanted to punch him out !
I was not right at all, they should of kept racing big deal the fool lost it in the rain.
Ya don't think the crowed went off for no reason, do ya. they were the real fans !

So Dick shouldn't have won his first Bathurst in '81?

[Mercury 8]

Originally Posted by Nikked

So Dick shouldn't have won his first Bathurst in '81?

Need to take some history lessons do we?The track was nearly completely blocked that day and the cars were in a very dangerous spot on the track with no hope of being able to clear them while cars were still circulating,unlike when Richatds was in the wall due to a bad call from himself and his pit crew. Skaife wanted to load his jacket up with cans of beer that day to throw at the angry crowd.Probably a good thing that gentleman Jim told him not to.All hell would of broken loose.

[castellan]

Originally Posted by Nikked

So Dick shouldn't have won his first Bathurst in '81?

No ! Brock hit the rock as well.

Dicky boy hit it and big deal, if he missed it good on him but he hit it, to bad so sad. to be truthful.

Someone hit a roo once down conrod, gee that looked good !

If you crash to bad the race goes on in my book.

I have no favorites, it is what it is a race not a bloody idolatry of the drivers to me.

I do take my hat off to all of the drivers but i do like to see the small teams get a win, big boys crash good the little ones may have a chance.

[The FOMOCO]

Jim Richards had every right to be angry at the crowd that day it was very bad sportsman ship by the crowd .Also he is the best wet road driver that's gone around Bathusrt ever

[4stanger]

Originally Posted by The FOMOCO

Jim Richards had every right to be angry at the crowd that day it was very bad sportsman ship by the crowd .Also he is the best wet road driver that's gone around Bathusrt ever

Another thing that would have bothered Jimmy, was that earlier Denny Hulme passed away while driving in the race (heart failure I think?), Denny is a former Formula 1 champ. and a Kiwi.

[ebxr8240]

Originally Posted by The FOMOCO

Jim Richards had every right to be angry at the crowd that day it was very bad sportsman ship by the crowd .Also he is the best wet road driver that's gone around Bathusrt ever

A yobo threw a can of beer, that's what set him off..I was there..
The crowd did settle after ..

[Iggle Piggle]

Originally Posted by Nikked

So Dick shouldn't have won his first Bathurst in '81?

Originally Posted by castellan

No ! Brock hit the rock as well.

Dicky boy hit it and big deal, if he missed it good on him but he hit it, to bad so sad. to be truthful.

Someone hit a roo once down conrod, gee that looked good !

If you crash to bad the race goes on in my book.

I have no favorites, it is what it is a race not a bloody idolatry of the drivers to me.

I do take my hat off to all of the drivers but i do like to see the small teams get a win, big boys crash good the little ones may have a chance.

WTF? Your response to what you quoted makes no sense, unless you think Dick hit the rock in 1981 instead of 1980...and that after hitting the rock Dick was declared the winner rather than a DNF.

As for "if you crash too bad the race goes on in my book" - you really do have no idea what happened in '81, do you? Maybe a monster truck could have continued racing that day.

Makes your earlier post where you reference "the real fans" quite laughable.

[castellan]

Originally Posted by Iggle Piggle

WTF? Your response to what you quoted makes no sense, unless you think Dick hit the rock in 1981 instead of 1980...and that after hitting the rock Dick was declared the winner rather than a DNF.

As for "if you crash too bad the race goes on in my book" - you really do have no idea what happened in '81, do you? Maybe a monster truck could have continued racing that day.

Makes your earlier post where you reference "the real fans" quite laughable.

I did not refer to it as 1981 did i, but old mate was talking about the rock bro. that is what i thought he was on about any road but thanks bro that all fine to ask.

If you seen the Bathurst race for years it's a joke when ever there is a crash or brakedown out comes the tow trucks and they all drive around lap after lap like taxi's. some race boring and backward and corupt ! the track is so out of date it needs a in road so there is no need for a tow truck on the track stoping and destroying a good race. you can have a big crash blocking of the track and all you do is wipe them of the track and go for it again, it's called a 1000 km race bro, so 1000 km it is i don't care who crashes.
I like to see a good race not boring crapy socialist type rubbish. I race my self bro. and i have no intrest in points at all, that's not racing, who wins wins at the end of the day in my book not panzie politics.

As for real fans yep i know a lot who were and they do not even bother to watch nowdays because it's boring and a load of USA type of big money rubbish that lost the plot with the true holden vs ford thing, bring back good old aussie raceing i say, the people loved it back then, it stoped all of australia once with an intrest, not now bro.
V8 sound good and that is what people went up to hear not 4 cyl and turbos farting around, it was just un australian you know. the crowd loved v8's end of story.

[ebxr8240]

They where more angry at the officials ...
Dick drove his backside off that day !!!!

[monte.b]

Yep Dick won the race no doubt about that ,they just decided to red flag the race cause poor old Jim couldnt drive and crashed then Dick passed him ,I wasnt happy either that day and it still gets to me .They could have stopped the race before Jim crashed and all would have been fine ,but they waited untill he did ,that is what everybody was upset about

[zipping]

After the big storm went over it was pretty clear I still remember the massive rainbow you could see from skyline.

[galaxy xr8]

Where's gtxb67 these day's , he would be able to re-site the race lap by lap?, haven't heard from him in ages ?.

[Rob 351]

One of DJ's best drives imo. Him & Bowey drove the wheels of the Sierra all day in very changable conditions that didn't suit the little Ford at all. Why they red flagged it was anybody's guess but I remember being on top of the mountain when they called the result & I can tell ya it wasn't a place to be if you were wearing anything closely associated with Winfield or Nissan.
Back then there was some serious passion in our sport & something that is sadly lacking these day!!!

[Raptor]

The race was red flagged and you can argue whether that should have happened sooner or later or not at all but the rules are the rules. Jim Richards and the Nissan won according to the rule book.

For context regarding Jim's statement (state of mind) it's also useful to remember his good friend and countryman Denny Hulme had died on the track whilst competing that same day. To then be competitive, crash in the deluge, be awarded the winner according to the rules and then be booed on the podium, well I have no issue with his reaction and would call it toally justified.

[castellan]

Originally Posted by Raptor

The race was red flagged and you can argue whether that should have happened sooner or later or not at all but the rules are the rules. Jim Richards and the Nissan won according to the rule book.

For context regarding Jim's statement (state of mind) it's also useful to remember his good friend and countryman Denny Hulme had died on the track whilst competing that same day. To then be competitive, crash in the deluge, be awarded the winner according to the rules and then be booed on the podium, well I have no issue with his reaction and would call it toally justified.

Old mate had the right to say what ever he wanted to, calling people what he said had nothing to do with it at all.

But some idiots did not have wet weather tyres and end up crashing, talk about idiots.

No one has the right to overtake the winner in the wet ?

Some are hopeless in the wet and some that's where they shine.

A mate of mine who races cleans up the whole pack in the wet but when it rains they all run and cry we have no hope of competing with him, stop the race not fair prickly pair !

The rule book

[Rob 351]

The grip advantage that the Winfield Nissan GTR enjoyed was unbeievable. At times throughout the day when there were rain showers, the entire field would have to come in & change to wets or intermiediates but the GTR's just kept powering on with slicks such was the traction advantage they had being AWD.
In that last storm, Ross & Jimmy brought DJ into the pits for full wets the lap it started to rain while Richo powered on in the Nissan & that proved to be a mistake. Jim firstly hit the wall out of the cutting, then powered on with only 3 driving wheels & the right front torn off and ploughed into the wreck that was at Forest Elbow.
While all this was happening, DJ was powering on in the Shell Sierra & overtook Jim while he was in the wall. Track was still relatively clear with a few VL's & Richo on the grass just past Forest Elbow & as Zipping said earlier, not long after they red flagged it the sun came out for the rest of the day.
I am not going to have a shot at Richo, he didn't wave the red flag & as said earlier, it had been a very trying day for the Kiwi. Jim will also go down as one of the best wet weather drivers this country has ever seen. Yes he was that good.
I think most people would agree on here that #17 should have won that day. They drove the wheels off that thing and like I said earlier, imo the best race I ever witnessed Dick Johnson race. He was brilliant.
In saying all that, the Winfield Nissan was always going to win that race! All the controversy before the race had the Nissan threatening to pull out of the race right up to race week. Cams had just put a weight penalty on the GTR's & Fred Gibson was not a happy camper saying he would not compete at Bathurst unless they took the weight penalty off the Nissans. Cams didn't budge & Gibson put more pressure on saying that Cams was doing everything possible to stop his cars winning Bathurst.
I would hate to think what Gibbo's reaction would have been if the race had continued with his #1 car out of the race in such contrversial circumstances.

[Mulga]

Gee......comments about Jim not being able to drive and a fool.....I wonder if you guys were saying this when he was driving for FTR in 2001 when he finished 5th at Bathurst. I'm sure you were cheering him on......all is forgiven Jim. Fact is, Jim is a Motorsport legend and has a very impressive motoring CV.

The times I've approached him at race meets, he's always taken the time to sign autographs and chat about the car, the race track and anything else. They don't call him Gentleman Jim for no reason.

[QLD-Bluey]

I disagree!! Jim Richards is a champion, but I must say that WAS Dickys race. it was a farce that they gave it to Skaife and Richards after the Skyline was put it in the wall after Dick passed them and was still running in the end. Like Dick said, he couldn't believe he was beaten by a car on the back of a tow truck!!

[Mulga]

Originally Posted by QLD-Bluey

I disagree!! Jim Richards is a champion, but I must say that WAS Dickys race. it was a farce that they gave it to Skaife and Richards after the Skyline was put it in the wall after Dick passed them and was still running in the end. Like Dick said, he couldn't believe he was beaten by a car on the back of a tow truck!!

Agree that it was unfortunate for Dick and not the right result....my comments were more about Jim's standing as a professional driver and not the outcome of the 92' Bathurst.

[xtremerus]

DJ, and all drivers, knew full well that the final positions in a canned race, goes back to the last completed full lap. They know the rules, and use them to their own advantage all the time. Stupid if they don't.

DJ just played to the idiots that don't know that there ARE rule in Motorsports.

[Ford17]

Bathurst 1992 was Dick's race, and he was robbed of a deserving victory.

The conditions were absolutely atrocious (I was there), and there was no way in the world an outgoing also-ran contender (Sierra) would have a chance against the all-conquering Nissan GTR.

The first of the V8 Supercars were also competing (HRT, GSR, Brocky), and were expected to outclipse all the Group A Holden/fords

The fact the DJR Sierra was in contention, and passed the crippled GTR on the last lap, was amazing enough. To hear the stories JB tells of the water sloshing through the rubber-less door jams, steaming up the windscreen with the heat from the floorpan, forcing him the wipe the windscreen with his hanky at full whack, makes it even more unbelievable they were ever in contention.

Say what you like about Jim Richards, but unlike Dick his loyalty was to whomever generated the best offer for him at that time.

Ford heros are to be revered, and Dick still is the Ford stalwart; a genuine die-hard, & blue-blooded Man right to the bitter end. Put his house and everything on line line for it.

Rules may be rules, but a crashed car should not have been allowed to win from its position one lap prior.

Don't care if that meant the QLD 500 went DJR's way a few years after that.

Bathurst is the only race worth remembering, & it should have been DJR's in 1992.

[blackf6]

I hate the GTR turbo's.

[Ford17]

If you think I'm DJR-biased, then so be it.




Because I am.