Law re displaying no. plates in qld

[groulder]

Do you have to display your plates on the front of a car in QLD? I swear I heard a few years ago the front was optional, which would suit me because I don't want to display them on the front. I suspect by now though it's become mandatory.

[superfly]

It's been law for a looooong time to have a front number plate. In the 80's I was driving without a front number plate and was warned about it but not fined.

Motorbikes don't need a front number plate.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by superfly

It's been law for a looooong time to have a front number plate. In the 80's I was driving without a front number plate and was warned about it but not fined.

Motorbikes don't need a front number plate.

Here in Vic they are making it compulsory for front plates on motorbikes.

[superfly]

Originally Posted by trublu

Here in Vic they are making it compulsory for front plates on motorbikes.

Good idea! Will stop them from beating head-on facing speed cameras.

[Matty4]

Originally Posted by superfly

Good idea! Will stop them from beating head-on facing speed cameras.

I haven't seen a head on facing camera here in Vic for well over 10 years.
I don't think they set them up that way anymore.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Matty4

I haven't seen a head on facing camera here in Vic for well over 10 years.
I don't think they set them up that way anymore.

When traveling toll roads have a good look, there is cameras facing you head on

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by Matty4

I haven't seen a head on facing camera here in Vic for well over 10 years.
I don't think they set them up that way anymore.

The Princes Freeway Melbourne to Geelong has then facing both head on and backwards...

[2011G6E]

Yep...gotta have a front plate, and it's up to YOU to ensure that the front and rear plates are visible from the sides as well...I think it's a 45 degree angle to the sides. I know there was a bit of a stink a few years ago as some people were getting booked and warnings about Nissan Patrols that have the factory spare tyre fitted on the rear door, with the plate to one side. It's hard to see from one side (the right?), and when people pointed out that's where they were fitted from the factory, they were told "the factory got it wrong". That died down though.


Front plates on bikes...?

Originally Posted by superfly

Good idea! Will stop them from beating head-on facing speed cameras.

Good idea...until the first traffic accident where the rider or a pedestrian gets sliced up nicely by it. There's a reason they used to call them "cheese slicers" in the old days when bikes had them fitted to the front mudguard...

Stuff 'em...I wouldn't fit a front plate to my bike. I'm not drilling holes and fabricating mounts to try and fit a plate to my GSX1400, and I'm really not messing around with my valuable and rare 1974 Kawasaki 750 two stroke triple...

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Yep...gotta have a front plate, and it's up to YOU to ensure that the front and rear plates are visible from the sides as well...I think it's a 45 degree angle to the sides. I know there was a bit of a stink a few years ago as some people were getting booked and warnings about Nissan Patrols that have the factory spare tyre fitted on the rear door, with the plate to one side. It's hard to see from one side (the right?), and when people pointed out that's where they were fitted from the factory, they were told "the factory got it wrong". That died down though.


Front plates on bikes...?

Good idea...until the first traffic accident where the rider or a pedestrian gets sliced up nicely by it. There's a reason they used to call them "cheese slicers" in the old days when bikes had them fitted to the front mudguard...

Stuff 'em...I wouldn't fit a front plate to my bike. I'm not drilling holes and fabricating mounts to try and fit a plate to my GSX1400, and I'm really not messing around with my valuable and rare 1974 Kawasaki 750 two stroke triple...

your 74 triple would of been fitted with a front plate from new

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by trublu

Here in Vic they are making it compulsory for front plates on motorbikes.

Where are they gonna stick it?

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

Where are they gonna stick it?

I'm hearing ya but the government won't care as it will be your responsibility & problem.
It will be about revenue raising....

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by trublu

I'm hearing ya but the government won't care as it will be your responsibility & problem.
It will be about revenue raising....

Well no, it would be their problem because they would have to bring in new adr's to allow it, and design rules would have to somehow make the front plates pedestrian friendly.

[lilmattie]

I heard that QT is moving away from stickers over the next year.

[damo6]

Correct, 1st october this year stickers no more. Got a pamphlet with my rego renewal.

[Alan D Segal]

Rego sticker =/= front numberplate.

[EA2BA]

Got VIC rego renewal the other day no more sticker required

[66GT]

Another question in relation to QLD rego plates is I understand that the slimline plates were only to be fitted to the front of a vehicle. I've spoken to several people who have deliberately fitted them high up under the tray of utes stating that they are therefore harder for cameras to pick up & be accurately identified.

[cheap]

In Qld your car must have a front number plate. Slimline is Ok on front of vehicle but not on rear.

ALL number plates must be in clear view, go to the TMR website and check for an explanation of what clear view means.

Also as we know there seems to a crackdown on all sort of minor traffic offences, Having a mangled/damaged number plate could incur a $385 fine. One of my clients was warned last week. To replace the plates with off the shelf plates is $25 (or there about) to replace with the same numbers is $80 (or there about). I really have to wonder at the mentality of some people to deliberately obscure number plates, no doubt they will go running to the Courier Mail when they're pinged.

[nstg8a]

According to ppq the laws was changed in 2005 to allow slimline plates to be fitted to the rear.

[cheap]

Stand corrected Slimline is OK on rear. Visibility still applies.

[nstg8a]

So where would they put a front plate on this?



I can't think of any market in the world where front plates on bikes are mandatory.

[jpd80]

And more often than not, a copper with a speed camera..

A lot more police bikes in Queensland recently, I think miscreant riders are going to be in for a rude shock..

Sit a few speed cameras permanently in 80 kph work zones along the Logam motorway and Qld's deficit would be paid off in a few months.

[Alan D Segal]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

So where would they put a front plate on this?

On the Helmet Visor. Then they can book you for driving without due care and attention as well as speeding you criminal.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

So where would they put a front plate on this?.

you have to butcher it, like if you had a Pontiac Firebird.

[JG65TE]

front plates on bikes - they have tried and tried, wont happen.

[nstg8a]

The only way to do front plates on bikes would be to allow the use of stickers instead of plates, and even then placement would be all over the place, and size would an issue.
They would also be more side facing than front facing, you would need one each side.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

The only way to do front plates on bikes would be to allow the use of stickers instead of plates, and even then placement would be all over the place, and size would an issue.
They would also be more side facing than front facing, you would need one each side.

Really wish we could use stickers for a plate. My car would look 10 fold better. I have seen a car around with one, seen it a few times with a sticker for a plate.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Really wish we could use stickers for a plate. My car would look 10 fold better. I have seen a car around with one, seen it a few times with a sticker for a plate.

Apparently in England they do at least...in classic English car magazines I get occasionally I've seen older English stuff like E-type Jags, Lotus Elans, and similar cars that have a "normal" number plate on the rear but a sticker on the front which allows for sloping front ends and nowhere to put a normal metal licence plate without hacking up a classic.


Once again, the 1974 model Kawasaki 750 two stroke triple did not have front number plates...there is no facility to fit them, no mounting holes in the guard for a fitting...


If they think I'm drilling holes in that front guard and fabricating some sort of number plate mount, they can sit on it and rotate...

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Once again, the 1974 model Kawasaki 750 two stroke triple did not have front number plates...there is no facility to fit them, no mounting holes in the guard for a fitting...
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Actually they didn't have to have holes drilled through the guard, my 73 Z900 had a mount that utilised the mudguard bolt holes on the forks....

The steel mount was sandwiched between the guard and the fork on one side, then over the top off the guard and clamped the same on the other side, it then had a piece running forward over the top following the contour of the guard with two adjustable/sliding mounting pillars for the bacon slicer.
The whole thing sat about 3/4in above the guard with about half a dozen rubber spacers between it and the guard....

When I picked up the bike (30 odd years ago!) the mount was in a box of spare parts, it created a wtf is this moment for me until I phoned the previous owner, where upon he told me what it was and that it was on the bike when he bought it new, a close inspection of the guard revealed faint marks where the spacers had sat, 5mins on a polishing wheel removed all trace.....

It went in the bin quick smart....

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

When I picked up the bike (30 odd years ago!) the mount was in a box of spare parts, it created a wtf is this moment for me until I phoned the previous owner, where upon he told me what it was and that it was on the bike when he bought it new, a close inspection of the guard revealed faint marks where the spacers had sat, 5mins on a polishing wheel removed all trace.....

It went in the bin quick smart....

I know how you feel. An old mid sixties Yamaha I once owned came as a box of parts and a rolling frame. Laid everything out according to the Haynes workshop manual, and found a couple of "odd" parts...a mismatched indicator, and this funny black pressed piece of steel. I couldn't figure out what it was for, and then realised that it was a front number plate mount. Didn't go in the bin, but went in the parts box for the next owner when I sold it.

With most bikes in the old days, the front plate was mounted in line with the guard...hence the nickname cheese slicer...and even the ones that mounted "normally" across the guard facing forwards were dangerous in crashes, both for the rider and anyone he might hit.
Seeing as how cars have had all sorts of laws and restrictions put on then for forward protrusions and possible dangers to pedestrians, I can't see how they would deliberately force people to put something on motorbikes that would create the potential for danger.